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Old 13 Dec 2010, 07:40 pm
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Default 2003 Acura TL problem

Ok when cold, sounds and drives great for 2 mins, THEN EVERYTHING CHANGES

D5 Flashes and looses power

Codes are
P0108
P1519
P0715
P0505

I know what all the codes means, but wondering if a acura specialist here
can tell me perhaps whats going on?

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Old 13 Dec 2010, 08:42 pm
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"Maxima" <maximamaximus00@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Ok when cold, sounds and drives great for 2 mins, THEN EVERYTHING
> CHANGES
>
> D5 Flashes and looses power
>
> Codes are
> P0108
> P1519
> P0715
> P0505
>
> I know what all the codes means, but wondering if a acura specialist
> here can tell me perhaps whats going on?
>




Am I to understand that BOTH the D light AND the MIL
("check engine light") illuminate?

Have you had a local dealer query the TCM for codes? These will be
different from the MIL codes.

What is the system charging voltage? 14.4VDC? More?

How is the transmission fluid level? Do you know how to check it?

Does the engine rev high at the same time as the vehicle appears to lose
power?

When did this start happening? Suddenly? Increasing frequency over time?

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Please be PRECISE, read carefully, and answer ALL the above questions, not
just the first, last, or whichever one you feel like answering.


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Old 14 Dec 2010, 01:43 am
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"Tegger" <invalid@example.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9E4DDCBF04E80tegger@208.90.168.18...
> "Maxima" <maximamaximus00@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:4d06cacf$0$21666$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>
>> Ok when cold, sounds and drives great for 2 mins, THEN EVERYTHING
>> CHANGES
>>
>> D5 Flashes and looses power
>>
>> Codes are
>> P0108
>> P1519
>> P0715
>> P0505
>>
>> I know what all the codes means, but wondering if a acura specialist
>> here can tell me perhaps whats going on?
>>

>
>
>
> Am I to understand that BOTH the D light AND the MIL
> ("check engine light") illuminate?


CEL is on, D5 light flash
>
> Have you had a local dealer query the TCM for codes? These will be
> different from the MIL codes.


I found codes with my obI reader. I'd bet my last dollar the dealer will
come up with same codes but never know till i go there.>
> What is the system charging voltage? 14.4VDC? More?


I don't know, but no problem with starting in -10C
>
> How is the transmission fluid level? Do you know how to check it? Did not
> check, most likely unrelated to all these codes imo.
>
> Does the engine rev high at the same time as the vehicle appears to lose
> power? Yes revs low, then high, low, high
>
> When did this start happening? Suddenly? Increasing frequency over time?


Had car for two days only.
>
> ------
>
> Please be PRECISE, read carefully, and answer ALL the above questions, not
> just the first, last, or whichever one you feel like answering.
>
>
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Old 14 Dec 2010, 12:38 pm
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Default Re: 2003 Acura TL problem

Ok Tegger, lets put your skills to the test and see how good you are.

My acura is currently at the dealer.

Wanna give a shot at what you think is wrong based on info provided?
"Tegger" <invalid@example.com> wrote in message
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> "Maxima" <maximamaximus00@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:4d06cacf$0$21666$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>
>> Ok when cold, sounds and drives great for 2 mins, THEN EVERYTHING
>> CHANGES
>>
>> D5 Flashes and looses power
>>
>> Codes are
>> P0108
>> P1519
>> P0715
>> P0505
>>
>> I know what all the codes means, but wondering if a acura specialist
>> here can tell me perhaps whats going on?
>>

>
>
>
> Am I to understand that BOTH the D light AND the MIL
> ("check engine light") illuminate?
>
> Have you had a local dealer query the TCM for codes? These will be
> different from the MIL codes.
>
> What is the system charging voltage? 14.4VDC? More?
>
> How is the transmission fluid level? Do you know how to check it?
>
> Does the engine rev high at the same time as the vehicle appears to lose
> power?
>
> When did this start happening? Suddenly? Increasing frequency over time?
>
> ------
>
> Please be PRECISE, read carefully, and answer ALL the above questions, not
> just the first, last, or whichever one you feel like answering.
>
>
> --
> Tegger



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Old 14 Dec 2010, 01:50 pm
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"Maxima" <maximamaximus00@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Ok Tegger, lets put your skills to the test and see how good you are.



I ain't that good. But I am the only one who responded to your query, and I
am dumb enough to hazard a guess.

Your transmission flares. That's a sign of a failing tranny. My guess: Your
tranny is one of the (many) defective ones.

There are a number of TSBs out on your automatic transmission, and at least
one Safety Recall. The dealer ought to be very familiar with these issues.

Does your vehicle have a punch-mark above the 12th character of the VIN
stamped into the firewall? No punch mark likely means the Safety Recall fix
was never applied to your car.

Whether or not you'll get a free (or partially free) fix will depend on a
number of things. Just because the car's out of warranty does not
necessarily mean you are out of luck.

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Old 14 Dec 2010, 02:28 pm
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"Tegger" <invalid@example.com> wrote in message
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> "Maxima" <maximamaximus00@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:4d07b969$0$21677$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>
>> Ok Tegger, lets put your skills to the test and see how good you are.

>
>
> I ain't that good. But I am the only one who responded to your query, and
> I
> am dumb enough to hazard a guess.
>
> Your transmission flares. That's a sign of a failing tranny. My guess:
> Your
> tranny is one of the (many) defective ones.
>
> There are a number of TSBs out on your automatic transmission, and at
> least
> one Safety Recall. The dealer ought to be very familiar with these issues.
>
> Does your vehicle have a punch-mark above the 12th character of the VIN
> stamped into the firewall? No punch mark likely means the Safety Recall
> fix
> was never applied to your car.
>
> Whether or not you'll get a free (or partially free) fix will depend on a
> number of things. Just because the car's out of warranty does not
> necessarily mean you are out of luck.


OUCH! Well, I'm in Canada, so I will see how it goes. The car is at dealer,
so I cannot check for the punch in serial, however, I do have the serial
number here with me. I'm now going to call Acura Canada to see if they are
aware of recalls on my vehicle.
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Old 14 Dec 2010, 02:45 pm
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Default Re: 2003 Acura TL problem

Turns out there is a recall on my car.

second gear transmission is what they said

So hopefully thats whats on the go.
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> "Tegger" <invalid@example.com> wrote in message
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>> "Maxima" <maximamaximus00@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:4d07b969$0$21677$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>>
>>> Ok Tegger, lets put your skills to the test and see how good you are.

>>
>>
>> I ain't that good. But I am the only one who responded to your query, and
>> I
>> am dumb enough to hazard a guess.
>>
>> Your transmission flares. That's a sign of a failing tranny. My guess:
>> Your
>> tranny is one of the (many) defective ones.
>>
>> There are a number of TSBs out on your automatic transmission, and at
>> least
>> one Safety Recall. The dealer ought to be very familiar with these
>> issues.
>>
>> Does your vehicle have a punch-mark above the 12th character of the VIN
>> stamped into the firewall? No punch mark likely means the Safety Recall
>> fix
>> was never applied to your car.
>>
>> Whether or not you'll get a free (or partially free) fix will depend on a
>> number of things. Just because the car's out of warranty does not
>> necessarily mean you are out of luck.

>
> OUCH! Well, I'm in Canada, so I will see how it goes. The car is at
> dealer, so I cannot check for the punch in serial, however, I do have the
> serial number here with me. I'm now going to call Acura Canada to see if
> they are aware of recalls on my vehicle.
>>
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Old 14 Dec 2010, 06:13 pm
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"Maxima" <maximamaximus00@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Turns out there is a recall on my car.
>
> second gear transmission is what they said



These are the documents I'm aware of:
- Heat-damage to 2nd-gear set.
- Safety Recall on account of above.
- Excessive wear of 3rd-gear clutch pack.
- Warranty extension to 7-years, 100,000 miles (160,000 km).

There may be more, but you need to ask your dealer to search for them. Your
dealer can search for them by your VIN.

Honda Canada Inc. has a different numbering system for Technical Service
Bulletins than American Honda, and calls them "Service Letters" rather than
TSBs, but they are often exact duplicates of the US documents.

I've been in contact with quite a number of people who have been pleasantly
surprised to find that Honda has been willing to cover at least part of the
cost of transmission replacement, even with the car well out of warranty.
People who have a good relationship with their dealer, or who use a dealer
which has a good relationship with Honda, appear to have had the most
success. The results seem to be about evenly-split between Honda covering
the whole shot, and Honda covering the parts while the owner pays the labor
to the dealer.

It's important to remember that the dealer is NOT "Honda" or "Acura": They
only own a franchise from Honda, but are otherwise a totally separate
company, with totally separate ownership. The dealer must negotiate with
Honda just like you must negotiate with them.

Good luck.


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Old 14 Dec 2010, 06:20 pm
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"Maxima" <maximamaximus00@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Turns out there is a recall on my car.



If the Safety Recall was never performed on your car, you just may be in
luck: You just ...might... qualify for a free fix...

Don't break out the bubbly just yet, but be aware that this possibility
just might happen with a bit of (polite and well-reasoned) persuasion on
your part. Honda takes Safety Recalls /very/ seriously.

How good are you as a diplomat? You might need that, so keep your powder
dry. You just may be able to talk them into giving you a new tranny rather
than a fix of the old tranny. How many miles on your car? If it's fairly
low, that gives you extra negotiating ammo.

Then again, they may offer you a new tranny without any prompting.


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Old 14 Dec 2010, 09:42 pm
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Eh Tegger,

The tranny has never been repaired. When I called Acura/Honda Canada they
advised me of the recall, and suggested to have it repaired while at the
dealer.

There is 240,000kms on the car, but I do believe this to be irrelevant to
this recall.

The only problem is there is one acura dealer in my area, and they offer
absolute horrible service, and the ironic part is, if they can get away with
not doing this, they will.
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> "Maxima" <maximamaximus00@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:4d07d72d$0$21674$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>
>> Turns out there is a recall on my car.

>
>
> If the Safety Recall was never performed on your car, you just may be in
> luck: You just ...might... qualify for a free fix...
>
> Don't break out the bubbly just yet, but be aware that this possibility
> just might happen with a bit of (polite and well-reasoned) persuasion on
> your part. Honda takes Safety Recalls /very/ seriously.
>
> How good are you as a diplomat? You might need that, so keep your powder
> dry. You just may be able to talk them into giving you a new tranny rather
> than a fix of the old tranny. How many miles on your car? If it's fairly
> low, that gives you extra negotiating ammo.
>
> Then again, they may offer you a new tranny without any prompting.
>
>
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