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Old 19 Dec 2007, 11:01 pm
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Ok, this is my third question involving this, I guess I am not being clear enough. I live in Pearl, Mississippi, fairly small town. I am looking at 3-6k to spend, 3k at least, 6k at most. and 500 in bolt ons afterwards. From what I have heard from friends and car clubs, the integra is easier to find, and more reliable and easier to work on. Although the eclipse looks better.Now, here is what I have planned, either buy a 95-99 Eclipse GS for 3k-6k, and do some bolt on work, (I only want 210 or 220 horses) .... OR...Acura Integra LS trim, then do bolt ons, and add a t3 or t4 turbo and push 10 pounds of boost. The acura hold more future possibilites with V-tech head swaps and what not I would think. Please help me out here all of you, I have 3k - 6k and I live in the middle of nowhere, I like the eclipse body, but I care more about power, reliability, common parts, and affordability.
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Old 19 Dec 2007, 11:16 pm
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I would take the integra and keep the LS head and bolt on a turbo. The v-tec has high compression and u'll run into high cost turboing a v -tec and getting that right. The integra has the cheapest and most common automotive parts and body parts. If you wanted you could fiber glass/carbon fiber the car w/ low cost. All this goes out the window if you can find a Awd eclipse. I just prefer awd cars.
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Old 19 Dec 2007, 11:31 pm
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First of the 95-99 eclipse only puts out 140 HP at the crank in stock form which translates to about 115 HP at the wheels. $500 will get you an intake and header and net you MAXIMUM 10 HP. A good exhaust by itself is $500+. However you can find a GS-T from 95-99 for about $6000 and it has a 210 HP motor which puts down 180 HP at the wheels. These cars are easily upgradable but do have their issues. On the other hand the LS also puts down 140 HP at the crank and about the same at the wheels as the Eclipse. A GSR which already has the DOHC VTEC can be found for $6000 also. To address the turbo on the LS the motor is not strong enough internally from the factory to handle 10 PSI consistently without problems. Plus a quality kit is $3,500+. The only turbo kits to even consider buying are the Greddy, Turbonetics, and Edelbrock. In order to get 210-220 HP out of either of these cars you are going to either go with a turbo kit, or do an all motor high compression build. As for the Eclipse go to www.hahnracecraft.com and look at what they carry for the 420A motor. Their kits are also $3,500+. Despite what people may tell you a header, intake, and exhaust on a naturally aspirated car will only give you between 10-20 HP. And thats QUALITY NAMEBRAND parts not the cheap no-name Ebay stuff. A good example is honda tuning magazine did a test on the 96 civic EX with a Greddy Evo2 exhaust $550, a weapon-r secret weapon intake $200, and a greddy header $439. The car baselined at the dyno at 106.1 HP and when they were done it dynoed at 118.9 HP the torque was 94.0 stock and 99.9 when finished. So for $1,189 they got an increase of 12.8 HP and 5.9 torque. Heres the link if you would like to see what REAL dyno results show http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t..._ex/index.html
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Old 19 Dec 2007, 11:46 pm
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dude why not get an eclipse gs-t for about a grand more and not have anything to spend afterwards? a stock 4g63 turbo that comes in a gs-t already makes 210hp. also, if you go the integra route, you might not want to go with the LS. their gear ratios are totally different than a gsr or a type-r. a fully modded LS will be quicker than the other two down the 1/8 mile but because of the gear ratio the LS will lose if the race is longer than that......
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 12:01 am
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you can do more with integras and you can swap in the best parts from hondas too. Honda parts are cheaper too, honda parts are easier to find and you can get the same thing and swap it into the integra. Integras are more fun!
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 12:16 am
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go with a eclipse gs-x they have a awd modle witch will help with the take offs and the gs-x is stock turbocharged so you will be pushing more horse power i know cuz i had one and it was pushing 210 at the wheels and they do look better too. the integra is easier to find and so are parts but once you get done with the eclipse it will be better over all
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 12:31 am
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why not just buy a car already has 200+ hp? Eclipse GS-T or GS-X would be a very good choice. Eclipse has nicer body shape. The Acura Integra LS has wimpy HP and is going to cost you more money than the Eclipse GS-T or GS-X to bring it to 200+hp. $500 hundred in bolt on gets you nothing, 3-5 hp at the most. a not so great turbo alone will cost you at least $3000, labor not included. it's even going to cost you more with the plan you have for the LS in the future.
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Hey guys, I'm looking to build my 1995 eclipse gst turbo 2.0L, and wanna know what other bolt-on's you guys suggest I could do.....so far I have:

k&n cold-air intake

megan racing 3" cat-back exhaust

Greddy Inter-cooler

Greddy blowoff valve

performance NGK plugs, Nology wires, coil pack

All I can really think of next is headers, and downpipe unless I wanna spend a ton of money with a turbo upgrade.....
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