On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 05:13:39 GMT, gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com (Gordon
McGrew) wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:12:20 +0100, "James Austin"
><givememychoice@CABBAGEyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>>news:nsednV7Vld9on2ndRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
>>> let's get this straight: some troll spams unsubstantiated drivel on a
>>> newsgroup based on unconfirmable reports alledging a total of 27 vehicles
>>> burning - apparently due to filter/exhaust proximity - a feature that is
>>> the norm for a vast majority of modern fwd's - and you're buying this
>>> story? 27 vs. the thousands of fords, gm's & chryslers that burn every
>>> day?
>>>
>>> hey, i have some used buffalo fodder i can sell you too. want to buy
>>> some?
>>>
>>> this is nothing but an astroturf campaign. get wise.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Actually, Honda themselves have admitted problems with about 164 vehicles if
>>i recall. However the problem is with the mechanics doing the oil change.
>>Maybe it is a bit trickier to do than on other vehicles. But, if you are a
>>trained mechanic, an oil change shouldnt be too difficult.
>
>Something funny is going on though. My Integras (86 and 94) have the
>filter right over the exhaust virtually guaranteeing that any leaked
>or spilled oil will smoke off. I assume Civics are similar. Why are
>only new CRVs being singled out? Is the filter nearer to the cylinder
>end of the manifold thus increasing temperature? Or something else?

On the K-series engine the exhaust manifold is on the back of the engine
and I believe the filter is on the right (looking forward) rear of the
engine - dunno where the catalytic converter is located but it's possible
it takes catalytic converter contact to actually ignite the oil, since even
exhaust heat is marginal for actual ignition of engine oil.

There was also a story from some link here that there was a suspicion that
the factory filter had not been installed with sufficient lubricant on the
seal, causing the old seal to stick to the mating surface.

IMO this stacked and pinched seals is just *bloody* sloppy mechanics - who
here has not run their finger around the oil filter mating surface on every
oil change to clean and check it? I've done dozens of filter changes on
Hondas and pinched seals is simply due to overtightening or insufficient
lubrication of the seal.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??