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Old 15 Jun 2004, 03:01 am
Mista Bone
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Default Re: Help! Is the problem the clutch, the clutch master cylinder, or both??

How does the clutch pedal itself feel?????
If the pedal is soft and engagement at the VERY bottom, near the floor,
then you have air in the lines. Bleed the air out and maintain proper fluid
level. A leaky CMC will still have enough fluid to last 3000 miles between
oil changes.

Yes it is common for the springs to pop out of the clutch disc. More common
on Integras than Hondas.

I'm "D" tranny guru, I specialize in 92-95 Civic trannys, but also play with
88-91 and 96-00 Civic trannys.

http://home.cinci.rr.com/mistab0ne/tranny.html

Email me if you have any questions.

"User38221" <user38221@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040614205343.15909.00000912@mb-m16.aol.com...
> Here is a brief summary of the problem on my '94 Civic EX coupe (93k

miles):
>
> -6 months ago: mechanic mentioned that clutch master cylinder has a leak
> -shortly thereafter noticed that the car was harder to shift through the

gears
> -a couple of days ago: the clutch suddenly started having trouble engaging

and
> disengaging. e.g. i'd be in 2nd or 3rd and it would be locked there even

with
> the clutch depressed. after a few seconds i'd eventually be able to shift

out
> of those gears. Also, after shifting into 1st or 2nd it would sometimes
> "klunk" as it engaged. i imagine the same would happen in higher gears

but I
> never shifted that high.
>
> The clutch doesnt seem to be slipping once the transmission is in gear.

Only
> when I tried to shift in or out of gears would I have a problem....maybe

on
> about 25% of the shifts I had to make. I've only driven the car for about

15
> minutes since the clutch suddenly got worse so this is what I'm going by.
>
> Since I already knew that the clutch master cylinder was leaking I thought

that
> that would be the extent of my repairs.
>
> However, I took the car for the first time to this new garage (non-dealer

honda
> shop) and they, after a short test drive, said I need a new clutch. They

were
> certain that it was not the clutch master cylinder. They said most of them

leak
> a bit at that age, but he didnt have a satisfying answer when I said that

since
> the cylinder only has a little bit of oil in it to begin with, any
> leakage--even a small bit--would likely necessitate replacing it. On the
> other hand, the clutch fluid in the reservoir has barely dropped at all.
>
> They're convinced that my problem resides with the springs in the clutch

disc,
> saying how common this is with Civics and Accords, how one of the

mechanics in
> the shop had to have the same repair done 3 times, yadda yadda yadda.
>
> Is this guy a good mechanic or is he trying to make me overhaul my clutch

when
> merely replacing the clutch master cylinder will do? I thought my clutch

still
> had lots of life in it: i dont race, pop the clutch, nor shift

crappily....but
> i do drive it "enthusiastically". The clutch is still engaging at about

the
> halfway point of the clutch pedal's travel--nowhere near the top which is

what
> I expected.
>
> I'm on a very tight student budget and want to sell the car within a few

months
> so obviously I'm trying to keep my repair costs low.
>
> thanks in advance for any advice
>
>



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