The EL is simply a re-badged Civic that comes standard with the vtec engine.

Pars

griffin wrote:

> I will look into that. I'm not too impressed with the Integra lineup so I
> kinda just skipped over the Acura's altogether but I have noticed that the
> 1.7 EL's are in my price range. I also was not aware they had optional
> sunrooves (sp?). I will go look into those. Thanks!
>
> "Pars" <"sdaro(remove)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40BE9B92.F0076AA0@hotmail.com...
> > 2005 Corolla B-Pack sounds like the best deal, but does not come with a
> sunroof.
> > Another good choice is the 2000 EL which can be had with a sunroof and the
> 127
> > HP engine.
> >
> > Pars
> > 98 Civic Hatch
> >
> > griffin wrote:
> >
> > > I'm looking to purchase a new(er) car at the end of summer for around
> > > $16-22,000 CDN ($12-16,500 US) and have been looking at these four
> options:
> > >
> > > 1. 2003 Toyota Matrix XRS or XR B-pack
> > > 2. 2004/2005 Toyota Corollla B-Pack
> > > 3. 1998-2002 Honda Civic SI
> > > 4. 2001-2003 Honda Civic DX-G
> > >
> > > I previously owned a 1993 Saturn SL1 and liked the luxury-type features
> > > (A/C, pdl, pw, pm, comfy seats, cruise, tilt, etc) and a Jeep YJ
> > > (convertible - openness). I currently drive a 1997 Toyota Corolla SD,
> the
> > > plain-jane no frill model. It doesn't even have A/C. I have a 15 month
> old
> > > child and A/C is kinda needed. My Corolla is also very uncomfy and not
> > > suitable for long drives.
> > >
> > > In my new car, I want some frills, like keyless entry, pw, sunroof would
> be
> > > AWESOME!, cruise control, etc. Price is also a factor - I'm a full-time
> dad
> > > raising my child and the more money saved the better. I want
> reliability,
> > > practicality, comfort, gas mileage, etc. It's going to be for daily
> driving
> > > mostly in the city. I live in the cold climate of Canada which ranges
> from
> > > +30C to -30C (-22F to 86F) so heat and coolness are big factors as well
> as
> > > handling in ice/snow/rain.
> > >
> > > I'm looking for honest and unbiased opinions. I'm posting this in Honda
> &
> > > Toyota newsgroups and I know people in their respective ones no-doubt
> prefer
> > > the company they are driving, but please be as impartial as possible. I
> only
> > > plan to buy one new car in the next 10-15 years and this will be it.
> Tell me
> > > your gripes and your praises for any of the models you own(ed) above or
> have
> > > heard about. All comments appreciated!!
> > >
> > > My current views are:
> > > 1. The Matrix seems very practical for everything. Reliability is hard
> to
> > > tell because they are relatively new but they seem OK? They may be a bit
> big
> > > tho and I wonder about fuel consumption? Pricy, too, for the higher
> models.
> > >
> > > 2. I love Corollas for their reliability and price. I tried an '04 out
> in
> > > the winter and it handled VERY well. It was also very warm and somewhat
> > > comfy. I've heard the '05's will be very comfy. It also seemed to have
> alot
> > > of power. I guess my only gripe with them is their simplicity. Simple
> can be
> > > good, but they aren't great looking cars and they lack the sunroof which
> I'd
> > > really like if possible. Still tho, for the price it's a pretty good
> choice.
> > >
> > > 3. I'd love to own an SI but I wonder about 2-door for a child? Many say
> > > it's hard to get them in and out and it's not so great. I've also heard
> > > mixed opinions on the higher output VTec engines - some people say they
> wear
> > > out a little faster? The price is also alot higher unless I go '99ish
> with a
> > > bit higher K's. However, they have all the bells and whistles and are
> fun to
> > > drive - as well as a good resale value. (PS: I know the '04's have
> 4-door,
> > > but they are a bit outta my price range for now ...but if you have some
> > > feedback on them, feel free to reply!) Is it worth the SI or is the DX-G
> > > just as good?
> > >
> > > 4. The DX-G seems like the Corolla's comparison but with a few more
> frills.
> > > I know very little about them tho except that they are a few $1000 more.
> > > Feedback needed!
> > >
> > > I thank all of you for your help!! Sorry for the crossposting and the
> long
> > > post!
> > >
> > > griffin
> >