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Old 18 Feb 2004, 04:06 pm
Elan7e Owner
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Default instrument and marker lights stay on, even with fuse pulled !! short?where?

Hi guys,

My 91 civic hatchback always has some new exotic problem after the other,
that no mechanic is ever able to figure out. I only end up find them out
myself after my dicussions on this newsgroup. Last time it was a seatbelt
beeper, then it was a faulty door switch, and now, after I got a new battery
becuase my old one died due to being drained so many times from electrical
problems etc, out pops a new problem. Damnit.
Yesterday I found by chance that my instrument cluster lights and front and
rear marker lights were on. I had parked it a few hours before and the
battery was close to dead, with all lights dim. I thought I forgot to switch
off again, but duh the switch was off. So I thought ok , the switch is
busted, and found the fuse for that cicuit under the steering wheel and
pulled it. But that didnt kill the lights! how strange is that! I mean, wow,
this means that the short is bypassing BOTH the fuse and the switch?? I also
exchanged the fuse with another neighbouring 10amp one, but that didnt
change anything. Finally I looked at the fuses in the engine compartment.
But they seemed to be only for blower/ac etc.
Could there be relay problem that causes this? Can you please tell me
exacty where under the dash this particular relay can be found ? But pulling
the fuse should take care of even and always open stuck relay, right?

To add another fact which may be related is that about a couple of times
earlier in the past few months I had noticed that the instrument lights had
gone out when I was driving. (the car ran fine and headlights etc were
fine). And then they seemed to work fine afterwards. Some loose connection I
thought?

Can Anyone PLEASE help me locate the short. Someone with experience with the
wiring may be able to point me to a place to look at.. I really cant afford
a trip to the mechanic over this, they charge $50 an hour and unknown time
to trace an electrical fault


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