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<csjVb.196030$6y6.3904105@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"K5" <K56522@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-B002DC.16430607022004@news.usenetserver.com...
> I have to agree with everything shag says. But the '03/'04 Accords are even
> better than previous year Accords if you like the characteristics of vdubs;
> not interested in any vw bigot flames about how Hondas are appliances for
> the soulless masses - but the Accords now have a more european car feel to
> them. While I don't like the pedal feel and steering input as much as vw,
> they're getting close. Seats are firmer, steering wheel is thicker, and the
> stock suspension is pretty stiff these days. I also like the dead pedal and
> telescopic steering column. The shock/spring/tire setups were downright
> lousy on vw for a long time and you had to upgrade them if you preferred a
> tighter and stiffer ride. It must be aging, but I was diehard vw gti for
> years but now drive an 03 Accord - overall I just like it better than what
> vw has now (was looking at a Jetta). Forgot to add, you should be able to
> get an LX for a lot less than 21.5 - I just got an 04 for 17,982.
>
>

Yeah but what does a GTi have to do with an Accord. The Accord IS a
boring car but it has nothing to do with a GTi. I mean if you are
looking at a GTi you should look at an RSX which competes with it. The
Accord is a big slow boring sedan. Obviously it will be much more
functional than a GTI or RSX but the Accord is one boring car to drive
(I find the newer one as boring as my Odyssey and more boring than my
2001 Acc EX V6). But boring is the point with the Accord, its a
mid-range family car that is reliable and still somewhat fun to drive
(compared to its competitors: i.e., the Camry, Taurus, etc.).