"John Smith" <some1@microsoft.com> wrote in
news:64xpb.99454$PD3.5297541@nnrp1.uunet.ca:

> Hello, this posting is applicable to 2003 EX model with climate
> control but without NAVI.
>
> I just listed number of items from my disappointment list related to
> climate control /AC system.
>
> 1. Fan power control buttons.
> These buttons located diagonally one above the other. They have down
> arrow (decrease power) on the upper button and up arrow (increase
> power) on the down button. I would assume that this should be the
> other way around.
>
> 2. Internal circulation with Auto ON.
>
> I have noticed that in hot day internal circ light stays for quite
> long (can be an hour) if I get in the car when it hot from outside
> sun and Auto is ON. Then I found a way to get rid of the circ but
> keeping AUTO. I increase room temp above normal, at certain point of
> temperature circ light goes off, and then I decrease temp back to
> normal and circ light does not come up. I see here either a flaw in
> the logic or defect in the temp sensor. Otherwise I would expect circ
> coming up back again when I decrease below threshold temp. And still,
> internal circulation longer than 10 minutes seems to be abnormal.
>
> 3. In A/C ON or OFF mode, I assume that I have full control over the
> individual controls of the system. But when I increase/decrease
> temperature level I notice that fan speed changes too even if I didn't
> change fan settings. My assumption that temp and fan should be totally
> independent in this scenario.
>
> 4. General lack of information in the display and therefore lack
> of control.
>
> When AUTO is on, it's ok to have only temperature levels displayed,
> because I realize that fan speed, temperature and modes are
> dynamically changed depending on outside conditions and temp settings.
> But as I turn off AUTO, I assume that these dynamic values are become
> fixed, but I have no idea what they are. No fan or mode display at the
> moment as well as AC ON or OF indication.
>
> There is an indirect way to find it out though. As I change any of
> mentioned settings, it brings these settings to the display and only
> after that they stay. I assume these settings should be on display at
> any time when AUTO is off. And this indirect way has another drawback.
> As you bring value to the display you change it even if you want only
> to check it.
>
> I would be interested in listening opinions and experience of others,
> JS
>
> P.S. I wonder , if there is such a thing as firmware upgrade for car
> computer similar to let say cell phone?
>
>
>
If you push the A/C button (2nd from top on right) the NAV dispolay
changes to climate control and all your settings are there. Just as
described in the owner's manual.