"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:mcmurtri-379505.13242814092003@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> In article <AR%8b.8980$Aq2.7457@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
> "93 Fox" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
> > > I suggest you read other forums and posts regarding at least Honda
> > > fluids for ATF, power steering, and coolant (and Dual Pump fluid if
> > > you have AWD). The Honda auto trans is not the same animal as other
> > > auto trans, and the type Z fluid does provide smoother shifting. Many
> > > who have tried generic power steering fluid have found that it attacks
> > > the Honda seals and causes them to leak. Most coolants have silicates
> > > and borates, which Honda coolant does not contain. These additives
> > > can cause premature failure of the water pump.
> > >
> > > Do what you want, but if you do, you take your chances. For me, when
> > > I look at the time and money spent on keeping a car well maintained,
> > > the increase to use certain Honda fluids is minimal. Now I do use
> > > other brands of oil and brake fluid, but be careful on substituting
> > > the ones listed above.
> >
> > FYI, Honda does not make ANY petroleum based fluids... the big oil
companies
> > do (Chevron, Mobil, Exxon, etc.)... they are just badged as Honda (I
would
> > like to find out who makes Honda oil, etc.). It is funny to hear people
> > praise Honda fluids and bash all others. I would NOT use generic fluids
> > either, use any of the many Brand Name fluids that meet the required
specs
> > for your car. Similarly for things like antifreeze, just use one that
meets
> > the specs in the manual (phosphate free, etc).
> >
> >
>
> Companies make parts for Honda using Honda's specs. This is obvious if
> you compare a "Honda" air filter to a "Fram" air filter. Both are made
> by the same company and have the same design but the Fram branded filter
> is a quality control reject.

Actually, I've found it obvious on everything *but* air filter elements.

Paid ~$20CDN for a dealer air filter recently. Looks identical to a Canadian
Tire branded Fram, at less than half the cost.