I somewhat disagree with you, Saintor. Toyota did something funky to their
transmissions in brand new Corolla and Matrix models. I testdrove a Matrix
with a sports package, and it was accelerating like crap, and it was a 220
HP engine! Same goes for Corollas. It feels like you row a boat. What's up
with the rattling noise on the driver side and the rotten-egg smell in new
models?

The point is, in terms of reliability, resell value, etc (IMHO) Civics and
Corollas break even. I think Honda has a wider variety of Civics to choose
from, though...


Milan
"Saintor" <saintor1@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > I need a dependable car which I will keep for around 6 years, and of
> course
> > residual value is important.
>
> Then get a 2004. Purchasing a 2003 at this time of year is a false
saving.
> I think that the Corolla is superior to the Civic. My wife got a 2004 1
> month ago. It has much more zest than previous generation. It is actually
> fun-to-drive. Comfy and reasonnably quiet. Good fit and finish. On the
> minus side, engine is a bit rough at high rpm and steering position is too
> high to my taste.