On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:25:28 GMT, "kai" <kainip@hotmail.com> wrote:

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>"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
>news:v_eQa.21608$lJd1.684@news01.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
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>> "George Macdonald" <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message
>> news:3f1147bf.42805269@news.tellurian.com...
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>> > >it.Took about 5 minus. The old one came out was the same make by NTK.
>> > >Took it back for a retest, thinking it is going to pass. Wrong :{. It
>> > >failed.
>> >
>> > You can get a OE type, with correct connctor, at
>> > <http://www.thepartsbin.com/>.
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>> He paid $80CDN. Parts bin lists the NTK sensor for $103USD plus taxes,
>> shipping, and everything else. It'll be $200CDN by the time it's in his
>> hands, maybe more if they insist on using UPS.
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>Since the previous poster mentioned about a discussion regarding OEM Vs
>UNIVERSAL O2 sensors. I have found the topic. After reading through it, some
>people were saying that they are the same sensors, just that the NONE OEM
>one don't have the connectors on it. Otherwise they are similar. Well , I
>wanted to find out myself once and for all if this is the case. So this
>morning I removed the Honda sensor to have a look at it. People, this Honda
>sensor is made by NGK number 303H, it is physically much bigger, metal is
>much thicker, it is almost twice the size of the NTK 21027. It is not the
>same one, it definitely is a better build sensor. You get what you pay for.
>
>The box that came with the NTK 21027 has an emblem with NGK/NTK on it. They
>are from the same company. So this is settled, as far as I am concerned, it
>is not the same sensor. I would gladly paid for the extra $170.00can OEM
>sensor without any hesitations. This is the path I would take with my other
>two cars, no buts no ifs. For the money I had wasted to pass the emission
>test, I can put all new OEM sensors to all of my cars with money left over
>to take some of you guys out for a beer.

Interesting info. Have you looked at the pictures at <www.partsbin.com> to
see if you can get an impression whether the parts they sell are the same
as the Honda OE part... as they claim it to be.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??