mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:

> They've also managed to make the new Civics *ugly*. Toyota has done
> the same thing: given their cars unattractive, militaristic-looking
> noses like American vehicles tend to have. One really wonders if they
> realize who has been winning the sales wars the last 5 years, and who
> has been losing...

IMO, most manufacturers are making ugly cars now. Look at Nissan's
line-up... Yuck!!!