On Jul 4, 8:58 pm, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"
> They've also managed to make the new Civics *ugly*.

I think the current Civic is gorgeous, even better looking than
previous generation, which was also an improvement over the previous
generation before that.

> Toyota has done
> the same thing: given their cars unattractive, militaristic-looking
> noses like American vehicles tend to have.

I do agree that Toyotas are pretty ugly.