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Old 27 Jun 2007, 07:02 am
Nick Bourne
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Default Re: '89 GL 3-door Coupe Power Windows

Hachiroku ハチ*ク wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:19:40 +1000, Nick Bourne wrote:
>
>> Hachiroku ハチ*ク wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:13:04 +0000, Hachiroku ハチ*ク wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, once again I am crossing due to the wealth of knowledge available
>>>> across the boards...
>>>>
>>>> My '89 Suby 3-dr coupe's passenger side window would not work. I know
>>>> when I looked at the car, the pass window would go DOWN from the
>>>> driver's side, but not up. From the passenger's side, it would work.
>>>
>>> I guess I should clarify my question a bit. What I'm lacking in
>>> understanding is, how does the driver's side switch control the
>>> passenger's side window? It doesn't appear to be a direct connection to
>>> the motor, so it has to go to the switch.
>>>
>>> On the pass side switch, there are 5 wires: Red/Pink,+12V; White/blk,
>>> GND; Blue/Cyan,(down or up); Blue/GRN (down or up); and another blue
>>> wire. I'll have to take a better look; I was concentrating on just
>>> getting the thing put back together and working yesterday. But it seems
>>> to me that the unaccounted for blue wire must be the Down from the
>>> driver's switch, and that the Up connection is missing...
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> If it is a factory fit then in the wiring harness there will be wires that
>> run from the drivers side to the passenger side that splice into the
>> up/down wires. If they are aftermarket it may not be connected at
>> all(seems that way by the wiring you suggested), but if it is there will
>> be a splice into the up/down wires somewhere along the line. The extra
>> blue wire is most likely meant to be hooked up to the dash light circuit
>> to make the switch light up.
>>
>> FYI the switches work by earthing out both up/down wires then when you
>> push the switch it disconnects the earth from one wire and connects it to
>> power. In a master-slave situation the slave switch up/down wires are
>> earthed back to the master switch so that when the master switch is
>> working it sends the power through the slave switch then to the motor.
>>
>>
>> Power Power
>> _____________ | __________________ |
>> / \ | / \ |
>> Motor Slave Master___ Earth
>> \______________/ | \__________________/ |
>> | |
>> Light Light

>
>
> Nice drawing! Makes it clearer. I'll check it out later if it doesn't hit
> over 100 degrees again today...if not, Friday is supposed to be in the
> mid-70's (makes working outside SO much nicer!)
>
> Earth, eh? In 1976 I had a Volvo 1800ES 'estate wagon', based on the
> p1800E sports car. Cool little wagon.
>
> The Tach said "Smiths" above the needle mount and "Negative Earth" below
> it. It wasn't until a couple years later when I went to Electronics school
> that it finally hit me it meant Negative GROUND!
>
> But I thought it was so cool that we named our band Negative Earth...
>


Sorry I come from the criminal colonies were the British taught us to
speak. I think it comes from the original DC power grid where you got
one wire in and 6 foot steel rod driven into the earth out the back. I
can't get my head around the whole AC wiring thing of active and
neutral. If you touch either it give you a shock, can't see what's so
neutral about it.
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