motsco_ wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>> "andrew.bell.ia@gmail.com" <andrew.bell.ia@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1181307584.875068.288170@q66g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>>> On Jun 7, 10:21 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>> what vehicle make, model, age, etc?
>>> 95 Accord Wagon
>>>
>>>> if you're talking honda, you don't need spring pliers. in fact, trying
>>>> to use them can damage the springs.
>>> Can someone describe how to safely get the pads on and off safely/
>>> easily?
>>>
>>>> what you need is proper training in a "safe" environment. suggest you
>>>> sign up for evening class at your local community college - they'll
>>>> teach you all this stuff and you won't make potentially dangerous
>>>> mistakes with your own car.
>>> You're probably right. But I'd sure like to have a good book or
>>> something that shows what to do. I've got the Honda service manual,
>>> but isn't particularly descriptive.
>>>
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>
> If we're talking about rear drum brakes, how did the conversation switch
> to 'pads' ?

what i want to know is how, with the factory workshop manual in front of
them, it's not apparent what to do. that's why i suggest they get
taught what to do in evening classes. some time you just need to be
shown, not told.

>
> The Chilton's manual doesn't assume you're a trained technician. (I have
> the HELMS as well) I use a spring tool that looks like a screwdriver but
> has a threaded 'trap' on the end, which clamps the spring and allows you
> to stretch it.

you absolutely don't need that "tool" on honda drums. indeed, use of a
tool like that scratches up the springs which can initiate fatigue. or
worse, bend them and change their free length and hence braking
pressure. you don't want that.

>
> Also, don't forget there's something like 13 spots in each rear brake
> that Honda expects you to lubricate (with the correct lube).
>
> 'Curly'