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Old 13 May 2007, 10:33 pm
jim beam
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Default Re: linear shift solenoid goes bad too often

ExtremeValue wrote:
> On May 11, 10:55 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> ExtremeValue wrote:
>>> I had this problem with my 1996 civic before. With an warm engine,
>>> shifting from 2 to 3 causes the engine to rev very high for fraction
>>> of a second. I took it to a Honda dealer and they said "Transmission
>>> has a flare". They asked me to replace the transmission.
>>> Then I took it to Aamco and they said linear shift solenoid need to be
>>> replaced. It was replaced and the problem recurred in 3 months. I
>>> asked them to go for Honda parts this time. They did that (as they
>>> said). Again after 1 year the same problem.
>>> It has 228K km, coolant level is okay, Transmission fluid is OK
>>> (changed a year ago and its pink), regularly changing oils from Honda
>>> dealership.
>>> I know it will cost me another 400 dollars to replace the solenoid.
>>> Any idea why its going bad so frequently? Thanks.

>> i don't think it's just the solenoid. while they can and do go wrong,
>> if the motor's flaring, it's much more likely a problem with the general
>> condition of the motor.
>>
>> my experience is that basically, the transmission expects the motor to
>> produce a certain amount of power in a certain amount of time in the
>> event of a downshift. if it's too sluggish, the clutches don't lock and
>> the motor flares. my 89 civic was chronic for this when i first got it.
>> and that's why the previous owner sold it - they'd been told it needed
>> a new transmission as some frightful expense.
>>
>> so, i came in and sorted the motor out, adjusted the shift cable
>> properly, etc. and now the car's fine.
>>
>> checklist includes making sure the cam belt is correctly tensioned,
>> ignition timing is correct, all the ignition components are in good
>> order, the valves are adjusted correctly, egr system is ok, transmission
>> fluid is ok, coolant levels good with thermostat working correctly, etc.
>> take care of all the little things that can affect general engine
>> health, i bet this problem disappears like mine did.

>
> Hi Jim
>
> In my case its downshifting okay but the problem is with upshifting
> from 2 to 3. If I press on gas pedal a bit harder (than what I usually
> do) the shifting has no problem. What I will do is to have these
> responses printed and take them to my mechanic.


i would caution you on who you go to. you don't want to pay $400 for a
$110 part. and you want someone who knows more than "replace the
transmission".

> I like to get this
> things sorted. The car is otherwise fine.


i would recommend you take care of the general condition things with the
motor and see what effect that has first. change the fluid on the
transmission one more time too.

>
> By the way, what motor you are talking about? Is it related to the
> engine or the transmission? (Sorry, I have no idea about auto
> engines).
>
>

mine's the 89 with the d15 motor. it has a "kickdown" cable and lockup
clutch solenoid but no shift solenoids like yours. i did have a
solenoid go bad in a way that it would trigger code on one ecu, but not
another. i figured my old ecu was bad and replaced that for $35 at my
local junk yard. as a diagnostic tool, you can try that too. you can
always sell it again if it turns out to be unnecessary.
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