"kitty666r" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:974096_6c0302f56ee1978dc91b46fdabdfaa78@autob oardz.com...
> hey,
> my civic has a " once in a blue moon " starting problem,
> it doesnt matter what the weather is like,
> it turns over fine but doesnt start,
> the ecu light comes on=had it replaced it still does it,
> its got;
>
> new plugs
> new leads
> new dizzy
> new fuel filter
> new fuel injectors
> the fuel relay has been bypassed so that cancels that out
>
> took it to honda thay said the ecu codes were coming up as the
> injector failing, got a new one,
> then took it back
> they said it was the ecu, had it changed.. now they dont want to know,
> it tends not to start when i need it the most,
> specially in a petrol station! when everyones waiting!
>
> ive had so many mechanics look at it and theyve told me to sell it, i
> dont want to cause ive got it how i like it ( boyed up )
>
> honda say its got to be something to do with the wiring loom whitch is
> going to cost £60 an hour for 2 days work.... TO GET IT OUT!,
> then a further 2 days to put it back in, i dont know whether they are
> taking the piss or not?
> it would be nice to speak to someone who isnt going to fob me off for
> once and who honestly wants to help my sorry ass!
>
> let me know
> cheers
> :P kitty
>
> --
>
What really bothers me is that I can't recall anybody who has reported a bad
wiring harness (loom) in Hondas. It seems odd the shop even suggests that.
You are already (as you seem to suspect) way beyond the point of any
troubleshooting being done. Follow TeGGeR's link for the "main relay" -
which is pretty much the first thing we think of when somebody mentions
intermittent start. As TeGGeR says, bypassing it isn't really an option.
Replacing it on general suspicion (as has been done with several more
expensive parts, apparently) is reasonable, since it is a part that can be
expected to give trouble every decade or so... and produce the very symptoms
you describe.

Mike