Body Roll wrote:
>
> «» wrote:
> > Body Roll wrote:

> > > > Thanks. That is the kind of info I was looking for. I have readthat the Honda
> > > > 3.0 has poor low end torque but your response says the opposite. Eventually I
> > > > will road test however I am still narrowing down between 6 cyl Accord, Camry,
> > > > Mazda, Nissan, etc.
> > > > I like the inside and outside looks of the Accord better than theothers. Better
> > > > to spend a few minutes here rather then a few hours at the dealers.
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > Ah, so that's how people end up with crappy cars. Collect some hearsay
> > > and
> > > do the minimum amount of the legwork themselves.
> >
> > So you are saying the Honda Accord is a crappy car?
>
> Accord is not bad, obese, but not bad. Camry is.
> Former coworker's late model CE started to fall apart at 70k miles. Not
> to mention
> that the car itself is not good. Same goes for nissan. Same story:
> another former coworker,
> late model Nissan Altima: 70k miles and the car starts to go. He also
> has an older Maxima
> with 160+k on it though and it seems to hold pretty well.
> Mazda 626 has Ford automatic transmission (Ford is known for crappy
> automatics I think).
>
> > Please give me an example of a good car.
>
> Sure,
> Lotus Elise & Exige
> Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
> Mazda RX-8
> Civic Si
> Mazda 3
> Dodge Viper
> Chevy Corvette
> Acura RSX & TSX
>
> About half of those can seat 4 in some kind of semblance of comfort.
>
> If you look for a more comfortable ride Z350 and G35 are probably not
> too bad.
> There is probably more cars in GT category but I don't keep track of
> those.

I've looked at and test driven most of those in the last year.
Beauty and practicality are in the eye of the beholder. I would not consider any
of them good cars. I should mention that I will not have a little high winding 4
cyl with no low end torque and high wear breakdown probability. It will be used
daily in city traffic.

Lotus Elise & Exige - bizarre looking, too small
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution - shoe box, too small
Mazda RX-8 - nice but bizarre looking, too small
Civic Si - shoe box, too small
Mazda 3 - ok but I like the Mazda 6 better
Dodge Viper - nice but impractical, looked at one 7-1-06.
Chevy Corvette - already had several, want something else
Acura RSX & TSX - nice but small, I like the TL better.

Also looked at:
Z and G cars - nice, G is a good possibility, waiting on feedback from nissan ng,
have not test driven yet.
BMW 330 - nice, good possibility
Jag XKR - nice but poor reliability
Toyota - nondescript generic boxes
Audi A4 - high winding 4
Porsche Boxster - too small
All the above is a fraction of my "looked at" list.