"Charles Lasitter" <spoof@address.com> wrote in message
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> Because of my recent enhanced upderstanding of the safety features
> listed below, and how my '05 Accord LX doesn't have them ...
>
> Traction Control
> Stability Control
> Emergency Braking Assistance
> Electronic Brakeforce Distribution
>
> (newer Honda LXs have ...)
> Rear disks
> DRL
>
> I decided to take a hard look at the Camry LE, versus what I'd have to
> buy from Honda to get the features above. I already knew I couldn't get
> the features in any LX / Special Edition / Special Value models with a
> stick, and because I like a manual transmission, I'd have to go up to
> the the EX with V6 and 6M.
>
> Aside from power and handling, the Accord EX and Camry LE are very
> different in character because of differences between the two in
> handling, economy, convenience, and comfort, but controlling for as many
> factors as possible, the Camry i4/5M LE looks like a heck of a value.
>
> Beginning in 2007, Toyota includes so many of these features standard
> for the Camry that the single "VS" (vehicle stability / traction) option
> for $650 gets you all the safety features above.
>
> That means if you can live with an i4/5M versus a V6/6M,
> your MSRP savings for this level of safety is:
>
> $27,850 V6/6M Honda EX
> -20,680 i4/5M Camry (with VS option)
> ------
> $ 7,170 or, 34.7 percent less for the Camry LE.
>
> And if you really have to have the extra power of the V6/6A, the Camry
> still wins as the 3.5L produces HP/Torque comparisons of:
>
> 268HP/248FT-LB, versus
> 244HP/211FT-LB for the Accord EX V6/6M
>
> And better fuel economy, and at MSRP of $24,270 with
> the VS option group included, is still $3,580 less than
> the EX Accord.
>
> But this is a digression, since you can't get the V6 Camry with a stick,
> (which I want), and don't want the extra horses if it means giving up up
> the stick. (If you like automatics, this could an even sweeter deal for
> you ...)
>

The only way I'd give up my stick is if my knees can't physically push down
a clutch pedal anymore, haha. as for the safety features, I was suprised
honda dind't offer it on the I4. I lot of peopel have made mention that it's
not really needed with an I4, but living in new england, I would of liked
it. that being said. I still managed to get an I4 EX manual with leather and
NAVI for under 25k. It wasn't too bad in the snow either (although we got
lucky with a pretty mild winter) I took a look at toyotas site, and I didn't
see anyway to get a camry with navigation in a manual transmission.