jim beam wrote:

> Matt Ion wrote:
>
>> jim beam wrote:
>>
>>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>>
>>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> matt, if the honda factory manual says disconnect, then you
>>>>> disconnect. end of story. and who are you to judge 20 degrees?
>>>>> you've got two vacuum diaphragms iirc, both affect timing when
>>>>> connected, and their subsequent movement produces the correct
>>>>> result for that engine. it's real simple.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The thing is, the manual contradicts itself. If you actually follow
>>>> the steps in order, it's got you disconnecting the hoses twice (and
>>>> btw, only one is normally used, the other operates only when the
>>>> engine is cold), and it's got two different advance settings, one
>>>> saying for the A20A2 it should be 10, 15 or 20 degrees depending on
>>>> the exact variant, the other saying it should be 4 degrees for all
>>>> A20A2s.
>>>>
>>> which manual is that matt?
>>
>>
>>
>> The Honda factory manual. I put links to images of the manual pages
>> in my original post, which you obviously didn't read in its entirety,
>> since I also described the contradiction TWICE.
>>
>> Or, if you insist on being so ****ing obtuse, don't even bother.
>>
> 1. for a guy that wants free advice, you're not very adept at ensuring
> you get it, are you?

Well so far you haven't offered any, only snide comments and retarded
questions that you wouldn't have had to ask if you read the original post.

> 2. if you read your manual, you'd see that it's perfectly clear on which
> timing is for which series engine. read it. and the section on testing
> the vacuum settings is not relevant to setting the timing. again, the
> manual is very clear.

Really?

Step three has you removing the hoses, making sure vacuum is present,
then plugging them. Step 4 has you connecting an advance tester and
timing light. Step 5 then says to adjust the timing to the listed
settings, which for my engine is 20 degrees BTDC, according to the
chart. Nothing in there says to reconnect the hoses while checking this
advance, nothing indicates that this reading is made with vacuum present.

Step 6 then describes how to adjust the timing, step seven directs you
to re-tighten the locking bolt and re-check the timing... and then step
eight says to disconnect the outside hose (which was already
disconnected in step three). Step nine further directs to disconnect
and pinch off BOTH hoses that were already disconnected in step three,
and then states that the timing for my engine should be four degrees BTDC.

Maybe in a backward universe like yours this is "clear", but not here on
Earth.


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