you dumb azz!?!... that's like saying that the accord sucks when compared to
an STI. Look in the same price range to be accurate. Now that said... yes
they still suck. If you stay in the <$17k range, I think the Mazda 3 is the
king right now.

The only Subaru near that price range is the Impreza (base model), with
something like 165 hp. The Saturn Ion Red Line is around 20k. For power
just over 20k, the Neon SRT-4 blows everyone away performance wise.

People are funny, they will buy build quality over horsepower quantity,
hence the Civic popularity.





<hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Comparable subcompacts far outrank Civic when it comes to performance.
> When is Honda getting its act together? Some of the competition Dodge
> SRX, Saturn Red Line, Subaru have 200+ hp.
>