"E. Meyer" wrote:
>
> On 7/8/04 6:03 PM, in article 40EDD347.5BAC498C@doofis.FAKEcom, "Grumpy au
> Contraire" <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "E. Meyer" wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/8/04 1:32 AM, in article 40ECEB1C.2FE328BE@doofis.FAKEcom, "Grumpy au
> >> Contraire" <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> motsco_ _ wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> varkiliy_jar wrote:
> >>>>> Hi.
> >>>>> Just completed a regular ATF change. It gave up 3 qt and I put the
> >>>>> same amount.
> >>>>> ATF capacity is about 7.2 qt.
> >>>>> The drain plug is at the bottom - and still only 3 qt. What kind of
> >>>>> magic I have to do to flush.
> >>>>> I have oil suction pump, but never used it and no clue from which
> >>>>> side I can get all 7.2 qt.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All kind of responses will be appreciated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> vj
> >>>> ================
> >>>>
> >>>> Change it again next Saturday, and the Saturday after that too. Make
> >>>> sure it's warmed up when you remove the fill plug, then the drain plug.
> >>>> Then you're done. Don't use ANYTHING but Honda Z1 ATF.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Curly'
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm of the school that changing tranny oil without cleaning/replacing
> >>> the screen/filter is akin to putting onn the same dirty socks after a
> >>> bath. IOW, the pan should be pulled...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Honda automatics generally do not have a removable bottom pan and there is
> >> no accessible screen/filter to clean or replace.
> >
> >
> >
> > I will not profess real knowledge of Honda auto trannies but could this
> > lack contribute to the relatively high rate of Honda tranny failures?
> >
>
> Possibly. One of the failure modes that has caused warranty
> extensions/recalls involves clutches disintegrating and clogging the little
> (inaccessible) screens they have in the fluid passages. This then causing
> exciting behavior like slamming into 2nd gear without warning at 80 mph. I
> suspect there would be less chance of that happening if there was a filter
> in the pan (if it had a pan...). It would still disintegrate, but the
> failure mode probably wouldn't be as exciting.
>
> It does make for easy fluid changes though.



I guess, religious changing of the fluid is in order...

<G>



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