John wrote:
> Wow, Curly, thanks for the information! That sounds pretty disturbing.
> I've only put 10 miles on the car since I just had the work done
> yesterday, so do you think it would be OK to just have the brakes
> re-adjusted correctly, without having to replace anything new?
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They'll slip the master cylinder off and correct the adjustment.
Hopefully you don't have any pulsation problems because of warping the
rotors with such high heat. Was the car acting 'guttless' like I asked?

In Alberta, the aftermarket shops that specialize in Asian models have
White Pages ads that say "Honda repair by XXX and sons" to draw in the
Honda customers. Good trick.
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> I am a bit surprised that the mechanic didn't catch these problems
> on the test drive, not to mention that he says he's got 20+ years
> experience AND works at a Honda dealership. I'm in a new area
> and so this was the first time I dealt with these guys - the work
> was about $1200 USD (I'm in Canada). I guess its time to find
> a new dealership. Thanks again. - John
>
>
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:13:16 -0600, "motsco_ _" <"motsco_
> _"@interbaun.com> wrote:
>
>
>>John wrote:
>>
>>>Hi To All:
>>>
>>>I just had a lot of work done on the brake system of my '92 four door
>>>Accord, but am having two new problems that I would like to understand
>>>before I take the car back to the dealer:
>>>
>>> 1) I have to press unusually hard on the brake to get the car
>>> to stop when rolling (to a stop light, stop sign, etc.)
>>>
>>> 2) I smell a strong burning odor (like burning tar) from under
>>> the car when parking it after driving on the hiway.
>>>
>>>Does anyone know what could be causing these issues? The work I
>>>had done was as follows: 1) replaced rear cylinder drums 2) replaced
>>>master cylinder 3) replaced ball joints 4) replaced front pads and
>>>machined rotors 5) replaced rear shoes and machined drums.
>>>Thanks for any help on what this could be. - John
>>
>>
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>>
>>I'll bet your car also feels like you're carrying a bunch of cargo as
>>well, like no get-up-and-go? Fuel mileage is down the toilet too, right?
>>
>>It sounds like they failed to get the adjustment exact, so your power
>>brakes are on all the time, and burning up your pads, shoes, disks, and
>>drums like crazy. That's why you can't get your brakes to work when you
>>need them. It's called brake 'fade' because really (smoking) hot brakes
>>just can't stop you very well.
>>
>>You've probably got a big fight on your hands, so you'll need an
>>alternate witness to prove that the shop now owes you new pads, shoes,
>>rotors, drums, maybe piston kits, maybe caliper rebuilds. If you've only
>>put 50 miles on it, just get the master cylinder removed and adjusted to
>>correct the problem. If 2,000+ miles, find an expert you can take for a
>>(possibly paid) spin, and show him how it smokes.
>>
>>Fight the original guy if he won't correct the (very dangerous) error.
>>
>>'Curly'