On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:54:07 -0400, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote:

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>"80 Knight" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> "William Munny" <bill@bigwhiskey.org> wrote in message
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>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
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>>>> CASH FOR CLUNKERS CHAOS
>>>> Clunker system crashes again, NADA may seek deadline extension
>>>> Neil Roland
>>>> Automotive News
>>>> August 25, 2009 - 2:52 pm ET
>>>>
>>>> WASHINGTON -- The government's cash-for-clunkers computer
>>>> system for dealers crashed again this afternoon, a National
>>>> Automobile Dealers Association spokesman said.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, these sure are the guys I want handling my healthcare....
>>
>> How many of you people who are complaining about universal
>> healthcare don't actually *have* health care at this time, due to
>> financial reasons?
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>I try to avoid these off topic discussions, but I have to throw in my
>two cents worth here...
>
>The US already has a National Health Care System, a private /
>goverment / no care system. It is the most expensive, most
>inefficient, and most unfair in the developed world. If our current
>National Health Care System had the best care, I suppose it could be
>excused, but by most measures, it is a failure. We have the highest
>death rate among babies in the developed world, we have the lowest
>life expectancies in the developed world, and we have the highest
>percentage of uncovered people in the developed world.
>
>If you are very rich or running an insurance compnay our current
>National Health Care System is terrific. If you are very poor, you
>probably can get treatment for injuries but no preventive care. If you
>are in the middle, you are paying through the nose for mediocre care.
>
>I often hear people rant about how they don't want government
>burecrats making health care choices for them. OK I can see this, but
>a lot of these same people are willing to let Health Insurance
>Industry Burecrats make those decisions for them. I fail to see the
>difference. If anything, I'd rather have governement burecrats making
>the decisions.
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>I often hear people rant that they don't want the government rationing
>health care, but many of these same people have their care rationed by
>the Heath Insurance Industry.
>
>I often hear people rant that they don't want the government imposing
>new taxes but these same people are paying directly (or indirectly
>through their employers) extremely high premiums for mediocre care.
>
>I have a hard time understanding all the outrage against a goverment
>administered National Health Care System. I can't see it being any
>worse that our Current Government / Insurance Industry / Drug Company
>dominated system. Do you really think the people running Blue Cross /
>Blue Shield; Cigna; GSK, etc., etc. have your best intrest at heart?
>Do you think they are less like than the government to extort money
>from you to run the system? Take a look at the salaries for the
>medical industry executives....then tell me they have your best
>interest at heart.
>
>Dwight Eisenhower warned about the Military Industrial Complex. I
>think we now need to worry about the Medical Industry / Drug Company
>Complex.
>
>People like Rush Limbaugh are tools of the evil rich. He does provide
>one good piece of advice - "follow the money." In the case of the
>health care debate this is very good advice. It seems to me Rush and
>his ilk are either idiots or evil. Take your pick.
>
>Ed
>

what he said