Forrest wrote:
> "Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
> news:Xns9C41D76759105tegger@208.90.168.18...
>> Elle <honda.lioness@gmail.com> wrote in news:e9dad137-9980-4a03-aeba-
>> 5762cb9543e2@32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> dan <d...@nospam.net> wrote:
>>> snip but all read and found helpful
>>>> It is fairly easy to remove the rear bumper to see what's going on under
>>>> there.
>>> I checked everything people listed here. The factory shop manual has a
>>> single page for directions on how to get the bumper cover and
>>> styrofoam absorber apart, and it is dead-on correct in what (easily
>>> accessed) screws and bolts to remove. Everything looks good! I am
>>> amazed that the styrofoam absorber is not cracked nor does it appear
>>> deformed. At most, the bottom 3/8-inch of the styrofoam has small
>>> indentations from where gravel from the road accumulated over the
>>> years between the styrofoam and bumper cover. Then the gravel got
>>> pushed into the styrofoam some, either from this rear-ending or lesser
>>> ones over the years. The bumper beam looks fine.
>>>
>>> I guess the styrofoam, the bumper beam, and the car moving some upon
>>> collision took the force (in the vein of Tegger's post). Kudos to
>>> Honda engineers or whoever sets standards for bumpers. A little more
>>> touchup paint here and there; some Armor All, and I think my Civic
>>> will be good to go.
>>>
>>> Thanks again Jim, Tegger and Dan.
>>
>>
>> Happy endings are always nice.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
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>
> Yeah, you really have to check them over after a rear-ender. My wife got it
> in her 92 Seville. The bumper was shoved forward on one side and some other
> damage. I went to the Caddy dealer to pick it up after it was supposededly
> fixed. The bumper was replaced and looked fine. I got down on the ground and
> looked underneath. There was a small shock absorber on each side that went
> to the bumper. The one on the impact side had been damaged and compressed.
> Did they replace it? Hell no, just shoved a bunch of shims behind it and
> rebolted it. I was pissed, raised hell and got it fixed right. Talk about
> shade tree mechanics, at a Caddy Dealership, no less. Really tightened
> my Van Allen belt !
>
>


I got some damage in a 10 or 15mph rear-ending at a yield sign. The
insurance company called a Honda dealership for a price for a
"replacement bumper" and paid me the $600 they quoted. When I went to
pick it up it was just the skin, unpainted, without the collapsible
supports. I ended up buying the supports and just repainting the
scratches on the original "bumper." We need to get some redefinitions of
what constitutes a "bumper."