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Old 30 May 2009, 11:01 am
Nate Nagel
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Default Re: '93 civic failed emission or suspicious emision test ?

jim beam wrote:
> robb wrote:
>> "Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9C1B605DEBBC2tegger@208.90.168.18...
>>> "robb" <some@where.on.net> wrote in
>>> news:LKydnT1nJZ2AubzXnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.co m:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>> I say it is original. I think it is the original.
>>>> Does honda service ever replace O2 sensor in any of there

>> regular
>>>> service intervals ? I do not remeber ever seeing the O2

>> sensor
>>>> being replaced but i did take the car in for whatever the

>> **BIG**
>>>> service intervals were ( ? 90K / 120K / 150K ? the numbers

>> escape
>>>> my memory)
>>>>
>>>> Oh well, time to start replacing stuff.
>>> Did you even bother to read Steve W's post?
>>>
>>> There may be nothing at all wrong with your car, but there was

>> LOTS wrong
>>> with the technician's actions durng the test.
>>> --
>>> Tegger
>>>

>> Hello Tegger,
>> yes i did read it.
>> steve said it sounds like i need to find a new tester. Thats what
>> i thought too but i do not think this was his first day and i do
>> not remeber testers ever having trouble getting a good tach
>> reading in the past. They always just plopped that paddle up on
>> the dash and the test done in about 10 minutes.
>>
>> Then with (Ben and Jim) i have two strikes against the car and
>> 1/2 strike on my story.
>>
>> I did not know it was standard practice to replace the O2 sensor
>> every ~80K ? i know i have never done it.
>>
>> I can and will test it (as i can) to see if it is suspect but
>> according to those O2 comments and even some of your own posts
>> about O2 sensors ... the O2 should probably be replaced ?
>>
>> Anyways what happens if you get failed twice ? Right now i have
>> to show proof of work done to get it tested again for free ?
>> other wise i am out $50.
>>
>> thanks for all the helpful advice,
>> robb
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> what is smarter?
>
> 1. doing the same thing you did before, and expecting a different
> result [retesting]? or
>
> 2. fixing the freakin' car, /then/ retesting???
>
> denial will only get you so far dude. it certainly won't save you money
> or stop wasting electron on usenet!
>


I think he has reasonable concerns that the test was not done correctly
and that there may not be a problem at all with the car.

The *correct* answer, instead of shotgunning the car with parts when it
may or may not actually need them, is to take the car to a shop with its
own exhaust gas analyzer, NOT an emissions test station, and find out if
there is actually a problem.

nate

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