George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message news:<9nt690hkk91219pe7tr0jc3ohbkstd6494@4ax.com>. ..
> On 30 Apr 2004 06:29:24 -0700, acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:

Sorry for overexplaining it. What I was getting at is it seems like
when I shifted, the engine sets its RPM to what the transmission side
of the clutch would be spinning at, ie. the clutch engages perfectly
with virtually no slip. Of course this means I keep my foot off the
gas until the clutch is engaged.

I haven't driven it since, but I'll check it out more when I do. I
think it's cool if this is what the car is really doing. I seem to
have a problem with this particular car on judging how much gas to
give it when shifting.

>
> ><snip>

> Hard to envisage exactly the conditions you're describing but if most
> noticeable in traffic/low rpms situations, certainly most modern engine
> management systems will not abruptly throttle the engine, when you let off
> the accelerator, for emissions reasons. It's also possible that Honda did
> not engineer the flywheel weight of the V6 MT properly for a manual
> transmission.<shrug>
>
> What I've noticed in my '99 Integra is that, in say traffic, when I coast
> in neutral occasionally (bad driving practice but in traffic saves wear on
> the clutch/gears) , the engine will not drop below 1000rpm as long as the
> car is moving. With our 2K Accord 4L Coupe, if the engine is cold, when
> you declutch to change gear, the engine actually sounds like it's racing -
> its not much, say 1500rpm, but is noticeable compared with its behavior
> when hot.
>
> I haven't been able to confirm this but I've also been told that some
> recent engines are set to a high "idle speed" on gear changes during the
> 1st 5K or so miles. I haven't been able to find any docs to back this up
> though so it could be just a dealer story to placate a persnickety
> customer. Certainly the next phase of "emissions controls" is going after
> various aspects of engine running regime -- moderate & hard acceleration,
> warm-up, engine braking -- which could make the drivability ugly.
> Apparently some auto-makers are back to that awful (70s era) air-pump
> device to cope with this - dunno about Honda. I guess bureaucrats need
> jobs too.:-)
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??