On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:58:30 -0700, "GasSaver"
<GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:

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>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:6s72v4t8f9kch5d8oeiddbvi57qvtakklu@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:02:55 -0700, "GasSaver"
>> <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
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>>>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>news:l0q0v4tv9tk605qaa582ibafa71a4gdhpo@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:15:19 -0700, "GasSaver"
>>>> <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad...
>>>>>>> GasSaver wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <not much worth repeating>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to be taken seriously,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a
>>>>>>> patent,
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a
>>>>>>> newsgroup)
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> you have nothing to hide.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway
>>>>>>> mileage,
>>>>>>> i.e.,
>>>>>>> wind resistance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the
>>>>>>> fuel
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline
>>>>>>> consumption,
>>>>>>> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the
>>>>>>> extra
>>>>>>> HP
>>>>>>> you claim to achieve?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>> works as you claim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time,
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the
>>>>>>> automotive industry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be
>>>>>>> legitimate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe, please go to this web-site:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can
>>>>>> always
>>>>>> resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt"
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> are law-abiding company and citizens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GasSaver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any
>>>>>> models
>>>>>> C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our
>>>>>> Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference.
>>>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This page should answer your questions:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html
>>>>
>>>> You can't even make your website work properly, why should we believe
>>>> you have shamed the engineering departments of Honda, Toyota, etc.?
>>>> (Hint: try wrapping the text.)
>>>>
>>>> Quoting form the site:
>>>>
>>>> "Here's what we do to triple the mileage, we improve your engine's
>>>> combustion, we eliminate frictions, and we turn frictions-to-energy by
>>>> applying electrical load to your alternator (briefly) when braking,
>>>> when slowing down and when coming down hill through a controller
>>>> below. When you accelerate, a device minimizes electrical load on
>>>> your alternator, and when you decelerate it applies beneficial load on
>>>> your alternator to convert magnetic friction into energy, to be stored
>>>> in your battery for the next powerful ignition cycle."
>>>>
>>>> Except for the meaningless term "magnetic friction" Honda had this
>>>> feature on the Civic HF, a high mpg model in the 1980s. It provides a
>>>> tiny improvement in efficiency. You could save more gas by replacing
>>>> your spare tire with a can of fix-a-flat.
>>>>
>>>> " Your battery will have plenty of juice every time before you
>>>> accelerate again and again. You can feel tremendous force / torque on
>>>> your vehicle even at 700RPM idle speed. Our technique is similar to a
>>>> hybrid braking concept except with ours you benefit more because a
>>>> hybrid's single brake action won't give you much power in return, in
>>>> general you brake 5% on highway, 25-35% in city."
>>>>
>>>> The stock alternator cannot provide significant braking or
>>>> acceleration. The effect would not even be noticeable. Drivers can
>>>> experiment by turning high load devices on and off during
>>>> deceleration. Can you feel the deceleration effect of turning on the
>>>> rear window defroster?
>>>>
>>>> And none of this has anything to do with friction.
>>>
>>>Gordon... listen my man,
>>>
>>>You don't know what you're talking about or you're talking about your
>>>extra
>>>old technology or you're referencing your old discovery.
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>> I don't have any technology or discovery. I only know the laws of
>> physics. Except for this trivial alternator trick, you don't even
>> attempt to explain your technology. Show us the calculations. Where
>> are the Joules coming from? If you can't explain the physics, it is
>> just magic and magic doesn't work.
>>
>>>The world is not
>>>black and white!! One parameter change can affect the whole scenario!!
>>>Too many bugs in your technology that prevent you from seeing the truth.
>>>Until you've seen the correction we did first, see it running with your
>>>eyes. No need to go further with you guys. You guys have too much
>>>WMD's
>>>in your heads. Clear that first then you will see.
>>
>> Some people are calling you a fraud but I really am leaning toward
>> lunatic. Hucksters aren't usually as incoherent as you are.
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>I don't care for opinion from uneducated people. You people kept thinking
>wrong to say "If it's true why can't automakers come up with the same
>wonderful solution?" There is only 1 Jesus, 1 Einstein. Why are you
>equalizing people arbitrarily?

I wouldn't dream of it. You are in no way the equal of the engineer
Honda has designing cupholders.

>You will never be able to fix your Auto problems until you are born again
>with a new set of thinking. Your illogical comparison fail to save you
>people.

I'm not comparing you to a lunatic. I am saying you are a lunatic.

> Don't come to our shops for service or for a demo.

It would be good for a laugh. Can anyone in the area go there with a
video camera and post it on youtube?




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