"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:6s72v4t8f9kch5d8oeiddbvi57qvtakklu@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:02:55 -0700, "GasSaver"
> <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>news:l0q0v4tv9tk605qaa582ibafa71a4gdhpo@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:15:19 -0700, "GasSaver"
>>> <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:...
>>>>>
>>>>> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad...
>>>>>> GasSaver wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <not much worth repeating>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to be taken seriously,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a
>>>>>> patent,
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a
>>>>>> newsgroup)
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> you have nothing to hide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway
>>>>>> mileage,
>>>>>> i.e.,
>>>>>> wind resistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the
>>>>>> fuel
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline
>>>>>> consumption,
>>>>>> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the
>>>>>> extra
>>>>>> HP
>>>>>> you claim to achieve?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>> works as you claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time,
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> real
>>>>>> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the
>>>>>> automotive industry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be
>>>>>> legitimate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe, please go to this web-site:
>>>>>
>>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>>
>>>>> It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can
>>>>> always
>>>>> resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt"
>>>>> We
>>>>> are law-abiding company and citizens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> GasSaver.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any
>>>>> models
>>>>> C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our
>>>>> Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference.
>>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This page should answer your questions:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html
>>>
>>> You can't even make your website work properly, why should we believe
>>> you have shamed the engineering departments of Honda, Toyota, etc.?
>>> (Hint: try wrapping the text.)
>>>
>>> Quoting form the site:
>>>
>>> "Here's what we do to triple the mileage, we improve your engine's
>>> combustion, we eliminate frictions, and we turn frictions-to-energy by
>>> applying electrical load to your alternator (briefly) when braking,
>>> when slowing down and when coming down hill through a controller
>>> below. When you accelerate, a device minimizes electrical load on
>>> your alternator, and when you decelerate it applies beneficial load on
>>> your alternator to convert magnetic friction into energy, to be stored
>>> in your battery for the next powerful ignition cycle."
>>>
>>> Except for the meaningless term "magnetic friction" Honda had this
>>> feature on the Civic HF, a high mpg model in the 1980s. It provides a
>>> tiny improvement in efficiency. You could save more gas by replacing
>>> your spare tire with a can of fix-a-flat.
>>>
>>> " Your battery will have plenty of juice every time before you
>>> accelerate again and again. You can feel tremendous force / torque on
>>> your vehicle even at 700RPM idle speed. Our technique is similar to a
>>> hybrid braking concept except with ours you benefit more because a
>>> hybrid's single brake action won't give you much power in return, in
>>> general you brake 5% on highway, 25-35% in city."
>>>
>>> The stock alternator cannot provide significant braking or
>>> acceleration. The effect would not even be noticeable. Drivers can
>>> experiment by turning high load devices on and off during
>>> deceleration. Can you feel the deceleration effect of turning on the
>>> rear window defroster?
>>>
>>> And none of this has anything to do with friction.
>>
>>Gordon... listen my man,
>>
>>You don't know what you're talking about or you're talking about your
>>extra
>>old technology or you're referencing your old discovery.
>
> I don't have any technology or discovery. I only know the laws of
> physics. Except for this trivial alternator trick, you don't even
> attempt to explain your technology. Show us the calculations. Where
> are the Joules coming from? If you can't explain the physics, it is
> just magic and magic doesn't work.
>
>>The world is not
>>black and white!! One parameter change can affect the whole scenario!!
>>Too many bugs in your technology that prevent you from seeing the truth.
>>Until you've seen the correction we did first, see it running with your
>>eyes. No need to go further with you guys. You guys have too much
>>WMD's
>>in your heads. Clear that first then you will see.
>
> Some people are calling you a fraud but I really am leaning toward
> lunatic. Hucksters aren't usually as incoherent as you are.


I don't care for opinion from uneducated people. You people kept thinking
wrong to say "If it's true why can't automakers come up with the same
wonderful solution?" There is only 1 Jesus, 1 Einstein. Why are you
equalizing people arbitrarily?

You will never be able to fix your Auto problems until you are born again
with a new set of thinking. Your illogical comparison fail to save you
people. Don't come to our shops for service or for a demo.