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Old 23 Apr 2009, 09:22 pm
Gordon McGrew
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Default Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:42:27 -0700, "GasSaver"
<GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:

>
>"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:...
>>
>> "Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:tlp0v49oertq6s5b0ef1ps7bivfqj4be0r@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:59:18 -0400, willshak <willshak@00hvc.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>on 4/22/2009 10:31 PM (ET) GasSaver wrote the following:
>>>>> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad...
>>>>>
>>>>>> GasSaver wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <not much worth repeating>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to be taken seriously,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a
>>>>>> patent,
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a
>>>>>> newsgroup)
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> you have nothing to hide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway
>>>>>> mileage,
>>>>>> i.e.,
>>>>>> wind resistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the fuel
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline
>>>>>> consumption,
>>>>>> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the
>>>>>> extra
>>>>>> HP
>>>>>> you claim to achieve?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>> works as you claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time, when
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> real
>>>>>> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the
>>>>>> automotive industry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be
>>>>>> legitimate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe, please go to this web-site:
>>>>>
>>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>>
>>>>> It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can
>>>>> always
>>>>> resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt"
>>>>> We
>>>>> are law-abiding company and citizens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> GasSaver.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any
>>>>> models
>>>>> C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our
>>>>> Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference.
>>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I went to your site and there is one thing there that will definitely
>>>>improve gas mileage.
>>>>Use of the ScanGauge II, pictured on your home page, which will show you
>>>>how to improve your driving habits to improve MPG.
>>>>However, your use of this gauge as proof of the MPG gained with your
>>>>system is misleading.
>>>>I have a ScanGauge II mounted on my dashboard. I have a 1997 Nissan PU
>>>>with the 2.4 liter, 4 cylinder FI engine which EPA Highway rating was 19
>>>>MPG at the time of its manufacture.
>>>>The figures on your ScanGauge are no proof of anything that you have
>>>>done.

>>
>> Joe sorry I don't understand what you're trying to tell me with your car
>> and our video. Don';t be confused with dynamic MPG display with Average
>> MPG display. Go to Scangauge or just forget it for now, I will show you
>> a
>> new proof you'd never seen before. A full video of a 75 miles trip from
>> Seattle to Olympia to prove that our fixes make a big difference, to show
>> you all instrumentation on the car itself and you can send me your
>> security
>> sticker to seal the gas cap to make sure I won't add any more fuel. You
>> will see the fuel gauge refusing to come down after 35 miles driving,
>> after
>> 40 miles it will come down about 1/2 a gallon. I will squeeze that
>> video
>> to compressed size so you won't have to spend 1-hr watching it.
>>
>>>> I can get any MPG reading, RPM reading, or even gallons used per
>>>>hour on my ScanGauge by merely letting up on the gas pedal at any speed.
>>>>At 80 miles per hour, I can get a MPG reading in the hundreds by taking
>>>>my foot off the gas pedal. Letting up on the gas pedal and pushing the
>>>>clutch in when going downhill.will give me a 9999 MPG reading.
>>>>When someone uses a deception as proof of something, as you have, I feel
>>>>there are more deceptive statements lurking in their 'proofs'.

>>
>>
>> Joe, you misunderstand, OFS doesn't make Scangauge, the scanguageII
>> showing
>> 9999MPG is not our deceptive proof of anything, It is a Scangauge way of
>> telling people that the fuel line is cut off by a car computer, they say
>> but I can't substantiate that claim. Please don't assume it was our
>> intention to deceive any one.
>>
>>
>>> This is exactly right. Nothing on the website proves or even explains
>>> anything. Yes, we (and every automotive engineer) know that friction
>>> and the combustion processes have inefficiencies. Auto companies have
>>> spent billions to minimize these losses with significant results. Now
>>> you have a mystery tune-up that magically triples gas mileage and you
>>> are hawking it on usenet. Is there any real question why NO ONE takes
>>> you seriously. You are either a fraud or a lunatic.
>>>

>>
>> Lunatic or not it's only your frame of reference. Yes you know about
>> frictions but you don't do anything about them, that's what eat your
>> pocket
>> up alive, further more you standardize the frictions in your brake
>> system.
>> You called them by-design or your laws-of-physics. "They are NOT any
>> laws
>> of physics, they are your design failure". Look at your GM and FORD
>> today,
>> their failures mimic your thinking. That's the real fraud for not
>> telling
>> people of their inability to correct the problems.
>>
>> This is why I offer you guys to make a full video of a 75 miles trip
>> from
>> Seattle to Olympia to prove that our fixes make a big difference, to show
>> you all instrumentation on the car itself and you can send me your
>> security
>> sticker to seal the gas cap to make sure I won't add any more fuel. You
>> will see the fuel gauge refusing to come down after 35 miles driving,
>> after
>> 40 miles it will come down about 1/2 a gallon. I will squeeze that
>> video
>> to compressed size so you won't have to spend 1-hr watching it.
>>

>
>
>Joe,
>
>Also read this page with open-mind, Press F5 to reload the page first. If
>you have experience with alternator torque outside the box, you'll see what
>I mean. http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html.
>
>Any way, send me your tamper-free security sticker to seal my gas cap, if I
>open the gas gap I break your sticker before video ends, that would mean I
>cheat. If this video won't help you then you should go for a 1-hr test
>with our cars. Nothing can teach you like a real life experience. Theory
>and reality are two different things. Too much theories in the newsgroups.
>
>Gassaver@extra150miles.com
>


Great, you claim to have a patent pending. Can you give us the
publication number? When did you file it? Did you file a PCT
application?

And I really like the part about the vehicle having to be
friction-free before you install the magic device. Maybe that is why
it doesn't work. You just haven't found a friction-free vehicle
worthy of the installation.

Yeah, I am going with lunatic.
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