In article <b%Ozh.251$rW7.214@newsfe10.lga>,
"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Been looking to get the wife a new minivan. Her '02 Venture WB-Edition I no
> longer trust.

For a data point: I have an 02 Odyssey, and I trust it 100%--with the
wife and kids in it, going on long trips.

I'm amazed that people buy cars you can't trust 5 years later.