E. Meyer,

Thanks for the reply. I'm happy to hear that this is a normal
thing for Honda. It's hard not not obsess over something
you're not use to. Now that I know it's normal, I've gotten
over it. Thanks.

-peteluv13



On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:56:52 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org>
wrote:

>On 1/9/04 6:47 PM, in article 7riuvvo2lrdqv6shrlu8hku05op8ho18ma@4ax.com,
>"peteluv13" <peteluv13@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm a newbie to Honda and their cars. Meaning I've
>> never owned one before, so I'm not sure if the issue
>> I'm having is something normal or not. The problem
>> is that from a cold start I feel a rub sensation/noise
>> in the gas pedal once I hit 10mph. The strange part about
>> it is that I only feel this rub sensation when the
>> wheel is turned to the right. I use to and sometimes
>> still do feel it when I turn the wheel to the left.
>> However, I never feel it when I go straight. For the most
>> part, everytime I turn to the right I feel it. If I
>> immediately stop and try to make it happen again,
>> it won't. That's why I say only form a cold start
>> I feel this happen.
>>
>> Let me give you an example of what I mean. From a cold
>> start, lets say I'm pulling out of a parking space and
>> cut the wheel to the right to exit. Now the wheel does
>> not have to be turned all the way to feel it. It happens
>> at any degree when the wheel is turned to the right.
>> Once I hit the 10mph marker on the odometer, well more
>> like 9mph going into 10mph, I feel this rub sensation/noise
>> in the gas pedal.
>>
>> I don't know what this is and it driving me nuts. So much so
>> that my fiance is telling me to shut up and do somethinig
>> about it. She doesn't want to hear it anymore. She thought
>> that I was going crazy. I wish you could ahev seen the look
>> on her face the first few times I talked about it.
>> Now she never drives the car because she works in the city
>> and takes the train. But, one weekend she needed to take the
>> car for the day. Later on that night she tells me that she
>> felt the rub sensation/nosie. So she says to me that I gotta
>> get this to the dealer. There's something definitely wrong
>> with it.
>>
>> Now in the first two weeks of owning the car, I
>> called the dealer and complained about the noise. They tell
>> me to bring it in and have the service department look at it.
>> So I make an appointment, at this point the car only had 2700
>> miles on it. It currently has 4150 on it. Anyway, I tell
>> the dealer exactly what they needed to do to reproduce the
>> problem. Now the tech that sat it my car and listened to me
>> rant about this problem seemed like he understood what I
>> was talking about. Well I get the car the next day and they
>> tell me they couldn't fix the problem. It was not reproducable
>> they said. After being bent out of shape for a little bit, I
>> spoke to the manager of the service department. He gave me the
>> same looks that my fiance use to give me as I was explaining the
>> problem. We then get in my car to try and reproduce the noise.
>> He gets in and start zipping all around the side roads around the
>> dealership. He never listened to me that, it only happens from a
>> cold start. So basically if you don't feel it you need to stop
>> and try again. Well he does starts to do this in the parking lot
>> of the dealership. Not once did he shut off the car and wait for
>> it to cool down. So that he could be doing it from a cold start.
>> We then park the car and go back inside. He basically told me
>> that if they reproduce the noise, they can't fix it. That kind
>> of pissed me off, but I guess he's right. But here's the funny
>> part about this. I get back in the car to leave and go back home,
>> anger and frustrated. I pulled out of the space and the car made
>> made that friggin noise again. well that just pissed me off, again.
>> So I go back inside to tell the manager. I tell him that it just
>> made the noise. I tell him look listen, everyday I leave my parking
>> space at work I can make this rub sensation/noise happen. He goes
>> and tells me that if they have to come to my job to see it happen,
>> they will. Well that never happened because the timing wasn't right.
>> Setting something like this up during the work week is just too
>> crazy for me. I have to much happening after work between going to
>> night school and other things. So I never set that up, which is
>> my own fault I guess.
>
>
>Your description sounds like the ABS self-test. My '96 Odyssey did it.
>Nothing to worry about.
>
>>
>> (Am I boring you yet?)
>>
>> So the car final came up for it 3750 miles oil change. I called to
>> set this up. They were so booked that I could not get my car to
>> them until tonight. This is why the odometer is at 4150, as I
>> stated earlier and not 3750. Anyway I spoke to the manager of the
>> service department once again tonight about this problem. I told
>> him that this thing is still a problem and it needs to be addressed.
>> He then started pulling out diagrams of the ABS system. Telling me
>> that he thinks it may be the ABS engaging that I feel. He says that
>> the old Preludes use to do something similar. Now I don't know if this
>> is true because I've never owned one before. Let alone
>> even a Honda in general. He says this because I only seem to
>> feel this from a cold start. So my question to the group is, is there
>> anyone out there that's having or has had this problem? I need to go
>> to them with something strong and hard. I checked Honda's site for
>> any such issues and have found none. I also searched on Google, that's
>> how I found this newsgroup. If anyone out there can help, I'd
>> appreciate it. Thanks so much for listen to my super long story.
>>
>> -peteluv13
>>
>>
>>
>
>It can be incredibly difficult to get a dealer (any dealer) to actually
>address the problem you bring to them, and I can certainly understand the
>frustration, but in this case I think you are obsessing over nothing.