On 1/9/04 6:47 PM, in article 7riuvvo2lrdqv6shrlu8hku05op8ho18ma@4ax.com,
"peteluv13" <peteluv13@nowhere.com> wrote:

> I'm a newbie to Honda and their cars. Meaning I've
> never owned one before, so I'm not sure if the issue
> I'm having is something normal or not. The problem
> is that from a cold start I feel a rub sensation/noise
> in the gas pedal once I hit 10mph. The strange part about
> it is that I only feel this rub sensation when the
> wheel is turned to the right. I use to and sometimes
> still do feel it when I turn the wheel to the left.
> However, I never feel it when I go straight. For the most
> part, everytime I turn to the right I feel it. If I
> immediately stop and try to make it happen again,
> it won't. That's why I say only form a cold start
> I feel this happen.
>
> Let me give you an example of what I mean. From a cold
> start, lets say I'm pulling out of a parking space and
> cut the wheel to the right to exit. Now the wheel does
> not have to be turned all the way to feel it. It happens
> at any degree when the wheel is turned to the right.
> Once I hit the 10mph marker on the odometer, well more
> like 9mph going into 10mph, I feel this rub sensation/noise
> in the gas pedal.
>
> I don't know what this is and it driving me nuts. So much so
> that my fiance is telling me to shut up and do somethinig
> about it. She doesn't want to hear it anymore. She thought
> that I was going crazy. I wish you could ahev seen the look
> on her face the first few times I talked about it.
> Now she never drives the car because she works in the city
> and takes the train. But, one weekend she needed to take the
> car for the day. Later on that night she tells me that she
> felt the rub sensation/nosie. So she says to me that I gotta
> get this to the dealer. There's something definitely wrong
> with it.
>
> Now in the first two weeks of owning the car, I
> called the dealer and complained about the noise. They tell
> me to bring it in and have the service department look at it.
> So I make an appointment, at this point the car only had 2700
> miles on it. It currently has 4150 on it. Anyway, I tell
> the dealer exactly what they needed to do to reproduce the
> problem. Now the tech that sat it my car and listened to me
> rant about this problem seemed like he understood what I
> was talking about. Well I get the car the next day and they
> tell me they couldn't fix the problem. It was not reproducable
> they said. After being bent out of shape for a little bit, I
> spoke to the manager of the service department. He gave me the
> same looks that my fiance use to give me as I was explaining the
> problem. We then get in my car to try and reproduce the noise.
> He gets in and start zipping all around the side roads around the
> dealership. He never listened to me that, it only happens from a
> cold start. So basically if you don't feel it you need to stop
> and try again. Well he does starts to do this in the parking lot
> of the dealership. Not once did he shut off the car and wait for
> it to cool down. So that he could be doing it from a cold start.
> We then park the car and go back inside. He basically told me
> that if they reproduce the noise, they can't fix it. That kind
> of pissed me off, but I guess he's right. But here's the funny
> part about this. I get back in the car to leave and go back home,
> anger and frustrated. I pulled out of the space and the car made
> made that friggin noise again. well that just pissed me off, again.
> So I go back inside to tell the manager. I tell him that it just
> made the noise. I tell him look listen, everyday I leave my parking
> space at work I can make this rub sensation/noise happen. He goes
> and tells me that if they have to come to my job to see it happen,
> they will. Well that never happened because the timing wasn't right.
> Setting something like this up during the work week is just too
> crazy for me. I have to much happening after work between going to
> night school and other things. So I never set that up, which is
> my own fault I guess.


Your description sounds like the ABS self-test. My '96 Odyssey did it.
Nothing to worry about.

>
> (Am I boring you yet?)
>
> So the car final came up for it 3750 miles oil change. I called to
> set this up. They were so booked that I could not get my car to
> them until tonight. This is why the odometer is at 4150, as I
> stated earlier and not 3750. Anyway I spoke to the manager of the
> service department once again tonight about this problem. I told
> him that this thing is still a problem and it needs to be addressed.
> He then started pulling out diagrams of the ABS system. Telling me
> that he thinks it may be the ABS engaging that I feel. He says that
> the old Preludes use to do something similar. Now I don't know if this
> is true because I've never owned one before. Let alone
> even a Honda in general. He says this because I only seem to
> feel this from a cold start. So my question to the group is, is there
> anyone out there that's having or has had this problem? I need to go
> to them with something strong and hard. I checked Honda's site for
> any such issues and have found none. I also searched on Google, that's
> how I found this newsgroup. If anyone out there can help, I'd
> appreciate it. Thanks so much for listen to my super long story.
>
> -peteluv13
>
>
>

It can be incredibly difficult to get a dealer (any dealer) to actually
address the problem you bring to them, and I can certainly understand the
frustration, but in this case I think you are obsessing over nothing.