/sarcasm on

My gosh..since you put it that way..it becomes clear to me that I was
mistaken.

Apparently that wasn't a '92 Honda Accord that I put a $300 distributor
on. Perhaps I put a new harmonic balancer pulley on a Camry because my
original one flew apart. I must have been driving a Toyota Camry all those
225,000 miles. In fact, I'm betting all 6 of my Honda Accords are really
Camrys under the skin.
In fact..oh my gosh, I hadn't even considered this!...maybe, just
maybe..I haven't really been working for Honda for the last 21 years, but
just showing up at a plant that says Honda on the front of the building when
really...(OMG!) my pay checks were underwritten by Toyota.

Them bastards!

It is amazing how crystal clear things become when somebody lays it out
there for you in black and white.

/sarcasm off

JB:
I respect the fact that you are an active participant in the discussions
that take place in this forum, and I am certain that you have and will
continue to provide many of the users here with tons of useful information,
that will ultimately save them time and money. I acknowledge that I was
wrong in my first reply to have risked inducing panic when, in fact, I could
have been wrong about the OP's symptoms being a bad distributor.
But dude...you are contradicting my statements which are an accurate,
factual account of my very own experiences with my very own ('92) Honda
Accord.
Fact: The root cause of my squeal was a worn-out bearing in the
distributor. This was a common problem for that generation, as confirmed by
the tech I spoke with at the FACTORY SERVICE CENTER.
Fact: Incrementally tightening my belt put extreme pressure on the
2-piece pulley bolted to the crank, which ultimately caused it to come
apart. The only part remaining bolted to the crank was the inner hub, which
had an outer rubber ring around it.
Fact: The new harmonic balancer, which I bought from the FACTORY SERVICE
CENTER was a 2-piece pulley, with a rubber divider between the 2 steel
parts. Call it a pulley; call it a balancer...I don't care. It did and will
come apart, the outer pulley from the inner hub.

I respectfully give you the last post regarding this diference of
opinion.

Doc

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:ZMudnUqOkZiFDdzVnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Net Doctor wrote:
>> JB..it's a 2 piece pulley, inner and outer hub separated by rubber. Call
>> it what we will..it will fly apart with too much pressure on it.
>
> yes, the 2-piece ones will, but the 91 accord is a single-piece, all
> steel, pulley wheel, not a balancer. maybe you're thinking toyota?
>
>
>
>
>>
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:xt-dneh3N5WOG9zVnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>> Net Doctor wrote:
>>>> I beg to differ..it most cetainly does have:
>>>> http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/rafr...1167195k292243
>>>>
>>>> a 2-piece pully separated by a rubber dividor. I never said anything
>>>> about it being internal. And it will fly apart if you over tighten the
>>>> belt. I 'know' that because, at the advice of someone in the forums who
>>>> knew nothing of the cronic issues with the distributor bearing, I kept
>>>> tightening the belt. Eventually the outer pulley separated from the
>>>> inner hub. Made a mess of things down there too.
>>> you're right that a true rubber-separated balancer will disintegrate if
>>> over-tightened and run for a long time. but the 91 accord doesn't have
>>> one, regardless of any generic pics or names used in a third-party
>>> catalog. check the honda catalog.
>>>
>>> http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...TON-CRANKSHAFT
>>>
>>> "PULLEY, CRANKSHAFT", not "balancer, crankshaft". the engine's got its
>>> own internal balancer shafts for that job, items 11 & 12.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> If it hadn't been for the car quitting completely and discovering
>>>> that the spark was nearly 180 degrees out I might have put it in the
>>>> shop. It occurred to me to pull the distrib cap to confirm that the
>>>> rotor was turning when I found it was full of red rusty debris. I could
>>>> see that it had melted on the center hub and spun around.(see link at
>>>> bottom) If you get a handle on it before it gets too hot it may not
>>>> destroy the ignitor module in there...it was too late for mine. I think
>>>> if you pull the distrib cap off, pop off the rotor button, and then
>>>> pull off that dustcover
>>>> http://isomerica.net/~dpn/blogimages..._dustcover.jpg
>>>> in there you can get a good look at the outer bearing.
>>>>
>>>> I apologize for jumping to the conclusion that it was definitely
>>>> your distributor, and possibly inducing panic. JB was right to point
>>>> that out.
>>>>
>>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> quoted
>>>>>> <bgreene1@dontspammecolumbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>>> How do you...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The distributor looks newish. What I don't like is that there seems
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be a bit of oil coming from two of the spark plug holes. I think I'll
>>>>>> have someone take a look.
>>>> JB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> before you panic, check the alternator, power steering and a/c belts.
>>>>> if loose, it's typical for them to squeal on startup, then quiet down,
>>>>> just as you describe. failed bearings generally continue to squeal as
>>>>> long as they're being used.
>>>>>
>>>>> and you can't destroy an "harmonic balancer" on a 91 accord - it
>>>>> doesn't have one, it's an ordinary pulley wheel.
>>>> http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...3-f00c3ef914d2
>>