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Old 11 Sep 2007, 12:44 am
jim beam
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Default Re: 97 civic rough/no idle, just changed timing belt, 72 troublecode

ChaoticEntity@gmail.com wrote:
> ok, it was disassembled and put back together from the service manual
> step by step. (misunderstood where crank TDC was, stupid mistake)
>
>
> I double checked the timing was correct when the belt was put on, that
> is that the cam marks lined up with the block and the crank pulley's
> white TDC mark was lined up with the V notch and the point(it was dead
> on) Then followed the tension procedure and after everything was
> tightened the marks were checked again, this time they were near
> perfect(the cam was perfect, the crank TDC mark was ~1mm from the
> point(IE well within 2deg)
>
> Now that it has been reassembled the timing is dead on that middle
> (red) mark @ ~750-800rpm. This is a canadian model D16y7 so the idle
> should be 750+-
>
> Still runs lousy, no power, idles rough then dies. If you put it in
> gear or anything it just wants to die on you. has almost no power till
> ~3-4k rpm and even after that it's far less than normal...
>
> any ideas?
>
>

i still say cam timing's off. it's easy to set the cam and the crank so
they align, but have the belt one tooth out simply by having the belt
slack. you need to assemble, tension, then re-check the mechanical
timing /afterwards/. carefully rotate the motor three times, then
slowly bring the crank timing point up to tdc keeping the belt under
tension. only then can you be 100% certain that cam timing is correct.

and to emphasize, ignition timing is a different matter entirely to cam
timing - ignition can look perfect with the cam 19 degrees out. the
gotcha check for this is the position of the distributor - it should be
roughly in the middle of the rotation slots. if the cam is out, it'll
be towards one end.

finally, use the right book - some are crap. helminc.com is the source
for factory honda service manuals - easily the best investment you'll
ever make in your honda if you do your own maintenance.
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