This might help a bit

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...cgry5=OIL+PUMP

Note especially the shape of the base.

Backtrack from this site for the Od filter.

Always helps to have the new part (in this case, the filter)
in hand when trying to find the old one on the car.

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote
>I was looking for the oil filters on those 2 cars yesterday
>but couldn't find them. Are they visible without jacking
>the cars up? Thanks.
>