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Old 28 Dec 2005, 10:39 am
jim beam
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Default Re: 99 civic - valves are now fixed, tbelt is good, but cold idleis weird

disallow wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Previous posts I have put up will bring you through the 'saga' i have had
> with my sisters car. Short story is that the t-belt snapped. It was
> then
> taken to a honda dealership. They just put it back together (650 bucks
> later)
> said no compression on cylinder 3. Obviously, the incident caused valve
> damage on cylinder 3 (all 4 valves bent), so I took the car to my house,
> pulled the head off, replaced them and put it back together.
>
> Well its all back together now, and it is running well, except at initial
> startup. It takes 10-15 seconds for it to figure things out, then it goes
> up
> to about 1500 rpms until warmed up, and drops down to the correct rpm.
>
> I told my sisters husband that this is probably due to there being air in
> the
> cooling system. I imagine that if the car has been sitting overnight,
> that
> the air in the system would 'burp' up to the top of the cooling system.
> Pretty much right at the top is the coolant temp sensor, which would not
> be
> immersed due to the air in the system. After 10-15 seconds though, the
> water
> pump will have primed the system, and the sensor would now be immersed,
> allowing the correct idle to be attained.
>
> Is this a safe assumption or am I talking outta my a.s?
>
> Other items of note:
>
> Initially, the car had been put back together (without any work on the
> valves)
> at a honda dealership. 2 items got destroyed when the t-belt snapped;
> the
> CKF sensor and the lower timing cover. Well there are already belt slap
> marks on the inside of the timing cover due to incorrect tension setting
> on
> honda's part.
>
> Also, the timing belt was off by 1 tooth from the dealership.
>
> I'm pretty pissed at the dealerfor their complete lack of knowledge
> on how to tell if there is valve damage without actually just putting it
> back
> together and hearing a cylinder miss.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> t
>


yes - good for you!!!

you can try taking issue with the dealer, but since you did the work
yourself, there's no labor receipts you can show the dealer for "loss"
in getting their repair repaired, so it could be tricky. still worth it
though. call the main honda usa customer care # too and discuss the
problem with them first. they're generally fair.

again, good for you in fixing the car - there's many a good honda
prematurely consigned to the junk yard because of "repairs" like your
dealer did.
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