"Burt" <marccrepeau@sbcglobal.net> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@earthlink.net> wrote
> > I'm not quite convinced that by /just/ running the water
> > pump all the air in a car's cooling system will find its
way
> > up towards the radiator cap, through the overflow tube,
and
> > out the reservoir vent. Ya gotta heat the system up,
too,
> > for one thing, to abet the release of the gases from
> > solution. For another, ya gotta provide a vent. With the
> > radiator cap on, and so the system pressurized, those
gases
> > can't really thoroughly bubble out.
>
> I don't see all of the remaining air will make it to the
cap.

Huh?

Are you agreeing with what I wrote?

Or are you practicing your English on the newsgroups?
Dammit.

> If
> the car never heats up the thermostat never opens, you'll
> probably have gases running around the heater core
instead.
> Which is usually the case when there isn't any substantial
> amount of liquid to open the thermostat.
>
> > Hence the purging
> > procedure has one beginning with a cold engine (and
heater
> > control on max hot), removing the radiator cap from the
fill
> > neck, leaving the cap off, then starting the car. Any
air
> > slowly bubbles out the fill neck.
>
> Again, I doubt all the air is going to make it out thru
the cap. That's
> what the bleed bolt is designed for.

I think we're having a disconnect. It's a two step process.
The manual has one first bleeding as much air as possible
out the bleed bolt, with the engine cold and off. Then it
has one bleeding it out the filler neck, with the engine
running until the fan comes on.

The bleed bolt can purge only so much air, since the coolant
is not yet hot.

> It's one of the highest point
> in the cooling system. It must be bled here.
>
> > Ya wait until the fan
> > comes on twice, which means the coolant is about as hot
as
> > it can get, too. Then top off the system, screw on the
cap,
> > and go. Check reservoir level an hour later, a day
later,
> > then a few days, then weeks.
>
> If bled properly the reservoir won't change days or weeks
later.

Right. To confirm a proper purging, I check the reservoir.

> Many cars offer different ways of bleeding, but if people
check
> out this link more likely it'll work for your car.
>
> http://square.cjb.cc/c/?HowToBleedCoolants

What the hell's wrong with the manual? Several of which are
online already. Your steps differ from it. For one, you do
not direct that the car be run with the rad cap off until
the fan comes on twice. For another, the manual does not
direct opening of the bleed valve with the car running.

Step 8's english is atrocious.

You are practicing your English with this site, aren't you?
Had enough of that bull in grad school...