I am curios as to how YOU are going to notice any difference of even 7 lbs
per wheel in a god damned stock Honda Accord with a 4 cyl motor.

If you were geuinely concerned about performance then you wouldn't have
bought a family sedan. Go go a real sports car if that is what your
interested in.



"Charles Lasitter" <check.sig4@ddress.com> wrote in message
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> John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in
> news:4smo51tlo5cjbp381u8sgmnb7v2kuiemph@4ax.com:
>
>>>Is that why Honda did backflips to reduce rotational mass
>>>everywhere it could in the S2000?
>
>> Sure, but they can actually make really significant reductions.
>> Not just a pound or so, but real weight reduction that only a
>> factory can manage by careful design.
>
> I think that seven pounds per corner tire+wheel is REAL weight
> reduction. Nine pounds would be even more real. My only real
> question is whether that last two pounds might be better invested in
> +1 wheels and more rubber on the road.
>
>>>I've read elsewhere that reductions in rotational mass play out as
>>>more "apparent" horsepower. I don't pretend to know myself,
>>>that's why I ask here, politely.
>
>> Yes, that's true, but again, you're not going to notice a pound
>> less.
>
> Not noticing a an additional pound at the margin tells me something.
> Not noticing an extra two pounds at the margin tells me something.
>
>>>> Anyhow, if minimum unsprung weight is a real necessity, go find
>>>> some magnesium wheels and never mind the tires.
>
> I've observed up to five pounds difference in tires of the same size
> spec. I don't think that's nothing. I think I might notice.
>
>
>>>I'd ask you again to FOCUS ON THE QUESTION: Diminishing returns in
>>>unsprung weight, rotational mass, ride and handling.
>
>> You're way out on the tapering end of that diminishing return.
>
> Thank you. This is what I suspected, and needed to know.
>
>>>The question is one of where and when additional investments in one
>>>area don't generate payoffs that would be more easily attained
>>>elsewhere.
>
>> That's precisely where you're at.
>
> Again, thank you very much for your input.
>
>
>
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