Try CarsDirect.com. They will give you a realistic target to shoot for.

Dick wrote:
> The best time to buy a 2005 will be late summer next year just as the
> 2006 models come out.
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> When I have used Edmunds, they have always been to the dollar on the
> actual invoice amount. Can't get any closer than that. It's up to
> you to negotiate the amount over or under the invoice plus shipping
> price. I notice that they are not showing invoice price on that
> vehicle right now. Don't know if it is a problem with Honda or ??
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> On 27 Sep 2004 19:10:56 -0700, Count_Caspian@yahoo.com (Jonathan)
> wrote:
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>>Hi all,
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>>Can anyone share the prices they obtained on a new 2005 EX-L (4
>>cylinder) with the navigation system? Edmunds does not seem to be
>>giving accurate info (too high!). Lowest I've gotten so far is
>>carsdirect at 24,600. I'm willing to put whatever time I need to into
>>getting the best deal!!
>>
>>Does anyone think prices will drop next month or the month after by
>>much? Is there truth to the idea I've heard to get a new car in
>>December because they are more willing to deal?
>>
>>Thank you for any pointers!
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